Plug-in LH Replacement
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Any photos of the computer screen?
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One thing that I want to ask some electronic savvy people here, and that will make my life a lot easier. I need a shot of an oscilloscope with the EZK Pulses on one channel and the Injector output on the second channel. I am specifically looking for the timing of the injectors relative to the EZK pulses. Preferably at idle-ish (1000-1500rpm) and if possible a second shot at higher rpm (2500-3000). Of course shots from a working s4
I've still got everything set up in the garage and can leave it that way for another day or so, so if you want anything more, just ask; it'll be easy to provide more info.
Notes:
- car is my '90 928 S4 (which does, in fact, "work" )
- upper trace is LH pin 1 "EZK speed pulse" (actually probed at CE panel W11)
- 0 V for the upper trace is in the middle of the upper half of the grid
- lower trace is LH pin 18 "fuel injectors ti" (actually probed at CE panel W12)
- 0 V for the lower trace is in the middle of the lower half of the grid
- x axis is either 10 ms/div or 20 ms/div (see each photo)
- y axis is 20 V/div
~675 RPM, x axis is 20 ms/div:
~1000 RPM, x axis is 20 ms/div:
~2000 RPM, x axis is 10 ms/div:
~3000 RPM, x axis is 10 ms/div:
~4000 RPM, x axis is 10 ms/div:
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Brittiant! Thanks for the scope pics. That is exactly what I wanted. I think I have everything I need, but I wont hesitate to contact you if i need anything similar.
I am busy with the coding at the moment, will upload another video when I have something again.
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19?? VW Baja Bug (Completely custom, Golf 1.8 motor, and many, many mods) - Currently my daily drive
1988 Porsche 928 S4 Euro/ROW (Black with Ivory interior) - Under ECU surgery
1982 Porsche 924 Euro (Silver with cream interior)- Gone
1982 Porsche 928 S (Manual) Euro (Petrol Blue with Blue with black and white chequered interior) - Gone
1983 Porsche 928 S (Auto, NA spec, Red, black interior) - Gone
1994 BMW 530i Manual (Maroon, grey interior) - Gone
I am busy with the coding at the moment, will upload another video when I have something again.
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19?? VW Baja Bug (Completely custom, Golf 1.8 motor, and many, many mods) - Currently my daily drive
1988 Porsche 928 S4 Euro/ROW (Black with Ivory interior) - Under ECU surgery
1982 Porsche 924 Euro (Silver with cream interior)- Gone
1982 Porsche 928 S (Manual) Euro (Petrol Blue with Blue with black and white chequered interior) - Gone
1983 Porsche 928 S (Auto, NA spec, Red, black interior) - Gone
1994 BMW 530i Manual (Maroon, grey interior) - Gone
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The LH ECU has some clever features which are not obvious unless you have read all the literature, like taking account of the longer time it takes injectors to open when the battery voltage is low, and having a limp-home mode to get you home if the MAF fails. Are you intending to incorporate all those features too?
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The LH ECU has some clever features which are not obvious unless you have read all the literature, like taking account of the longer time it takes injectors to open when the battery voltage is low, and having a limp-home mode to get you home if the MAF fails. Are you intending to incorporate all those features too?
Either way, I can integrate support for that later on. I am planning a limp home mode for the ECU though. I will do that later on with the engine temp sensor and other stuff.
Any photos of the computer screen?
Back to the update:
Step 7: Programming Phase 2: Fuel adjustment according to RPM
Ok, lets give the youtube link first then I will give my boring explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HC11F8Bi80
In this video my setup is me sitting with laptop, connected to ICD3 connected to my ECU. The ICD3 in debugging mode allows me to stop and start the CPU when I want (in the bottom of the video on the pc screen you can see me click the run and pause buttons)
I have programmed the first part of my fuel map that looks in a 1 dimensional array for the injector opening time.
To calculate the RPM I use an internal timer on the CPU. The timer runs at half the CPU speed (40 MHz), along with a divider of 256 that I programmed in. This will yield a timer value of 156.35 for every ms. A bit of calculation later gives me a magic number of 11719. When I take the number 11719 and divide the timer value that measures the time between EZK pulsed, I get a nice 100xRPM value. (value of 5 = 500 rpm etc). Using this method I get a 0.002% error. Meaning I read 7000 rpm instead of 7000.149 (Personally I think this is close enough)
I then use that to look up in my table to get the injector opening value.
The next step is to program the unit to take the MAF into account. That will not be done today, If I am lucky (read: will not sleep a lot tonight) tomorrow the MAF will be sorted and I will post a video of me driving around the block.
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19?? VW Baja Bug (Completely custom, Golf 1.8 motor, and many, many mods) - Currently my daily drive
1988 Porsche 928 S4 Euro/ROW (Black with Ivory interior) - Under ECU surgery
1982 Porsche 924 Euro (Silver with cream interior)- Gone
1982 Porsche 928 S (Manual) Euro (Petrol Blue with Blue with black and white chequered interior) - Gone
1983 Porsche 928 S (Auto, NA spec, Red, black interior) - Gone
1994 BMW 530i Manual (Maroon, grey interior) - Gone
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The description of the voltage correction is in a document called "Gasoline Fuel-Injection System L-Jetronic" which is included on the Morehouse set of 928 technical document CDs.
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This so way over my head - however I know someone who would love to sell the product if and when you decide to do that.
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
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Very cool stuff!
Replacing the EZF/EZK is where the real power is. Making a (single knock sensor input) EZK that would work on the S2/S3 would be sweet.
Both the LH2.2 and 2.3 modify the injector open time slightly according to the voltage coming into the LH.
Note LH2.3 outputs a frequency to the EZK based on the MAF voltage and RPM to indicate load. (LH2.2 also outputs this signal, but it is not used. The EZF has an internal MAP sensor.)
Replacing the EZF/EZK is where the real power is. Making a (single knock sensor input) EZK that would work on the S2/S3 would be sweet.
Note LH2.3 outputs a frequency to the EZK based on the MAF voltage and RPM to indicate load. (LH2.2 also outputs this signal, but it is not used. The EZF has an internal MAP sensor.)
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Mini update:
Ok, I got that book, quite a good read, in the end I will implement all the features described.
The coding has been going slow the past few days, will only have time to work on the code tomorrow and then the weekend.
Will keep everyone updated.
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19?? VW Baja Bug (Completely custom, Golf 1.8 motor, and many, many mods) - Currently my daily drive
1988 Porsche 928 S4 Euro/ROW (Black with Ivory interior) - Under ECU surgery
1982 Porsche 924 Euro (Silver with cream interior)- Gone
1982 Porsche 928 S (Manual) Euro (Petrol Blue with Blue with black and white chequered interior) - Gone
1983 Porsche 928 S (Auto, NA spec, Red, black interior) - Gone
1994 BMW 530i Manual (Maroon, grey interior) - Gone
The description of the voltage correction is in a document called "Gasoline Fuel-Injection System L-Jetronic" which is included on the Morehouse set of 928 technical document CDs.
The coding has been going slow the past few days, will only have time to work on the code tomorrow and then the weekend.
Will keep everyone updated.
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19?? VW Baja Bug (Completely custom, Golf 1.8 motor, and many, many mods) - Currently my daily drive
1988 Porsche 928 S4 Euro/ROW (Black with Ivory interior) - Under ECU surgery
1982 Porsche 924 Euro (Silver with cream interior)- Gone
1982 Porsche 928 S (Manual) Euro (Petrol Blue with Blue with black and white chequered interior) - Gone
1983 Porsche 928 S (Auto, NA spec, Red, black interior) - Gone
1994 BMW 530i Manual (Maroon, grey interior) - Gone