77tony

What does a complete GTS Motor weigh ?

danglerb

Around 625, depends on what you call complete, but its around 200 lbs more than the LSx aluminum headed motors.

Rob Edwards

Nah, less than that. I get 531 pounds, fully dressed except for A/C compressor and PS pump.


SHORTBLOCK Grams Lbs
GTS block 36114 79.62
girdle (including oil pressure regulator assembly, and cooler hose inserts) 12302 27.12
GTS crank 28436 62.69
Front main Seal 48 0.11
Rear main seal 80 0.18
M12 girdle bolts (10) and washers 1280 2.82
M10 girdle bolts and washers (10) 660 1.46
M8 girdle bolts and washers (10) 304 0.67
oil pan 6496 14.32
Main bearing halves (6) 324 0.71
Thrust bearing 200 0.44
Front main bearing ring 110 0.24
2 rod bearings (16) 320 0.71
GTS balancer 3292 7.26
A/C belt pulley 626 1.38
crank bolt and washer 230 0.51
crank pulley 422 0.93
crank pulley spacer washers (2) 60 0.13
Main accessory belt pulley 1130 2.49
8 GTS pistons and rods 11376 25.08
GTS flywheel 4802 10.59
85-86 manual flywheel 4202 9.27
flywheel bolts (9) 224 0.49
oil filter 476 1.05

SUBTOTAL 113514 250.26


HEADS:
Two GTS heads with valves/springs/guides/drainback/lifters/cam caps 43156 95.14
head gaskets (2) 308 0.68
engine hoist brackets, left and right 290 0.64
head bolts (20) 3200 7.05
cam oil seal 928 302 167 03 (1) 20 0.04
valve cover (2) 2384 5.26
valve cover gaskets (2)
short valve cover bolts (8) and long bolts (18) with washers and grommets 644 1.42
valve cover ignition wire brackets (2) 30 0.07
GTS cams (4) 10880 23.99
cam chains (2) 348 0.77
spark plug (8) 430 0.95
valve cover breather plugs and circlips (1) 7 0.02
valve cover L-breathers (3) with hardware 150 0.33
valve cover spark plug hole gaskets (8) 48 0.11

SUBTOTAL 61895 136.46

TIMING BELT ASSOCIATED;
1-4 cam cover and plug bracket 662 1.46
1-4 cam cover-rear plate 480 1.06
5-8 cam belt cover 626 1.38
5-8 cam belt cover rear plate 310 0.68
cam gear (2) 772 1.70
cam gear bolt and hex washer (2) 148 0.33
cam spider (2) 176 0.39
lower cam belt cover 396 0.87
lower cam cover rear plate- plastic 254 0.56
lower idler - single bearing 196 0.43
tensioner body, washers, piston, boot 1260 2.78
tensioner ground spring 12 0.03
tensioner roller, ider and arm 860 1.90
Factory timing belt, new 270 0.60

SUBTOTAL 6422 14.16


A/C ASSOCIATED PARTS
A/C tensioner bracket 150 0.33
A/C block to compressor bracket 504 1.11
lower AC bracket for 10PA20CC 470 1.04

SUBTOTAL 1124 2.48

OILING
oil pump 974 2.15
oil pickup tube and screen 472 1.04
dipstick 28 0.06
dipstick tube 84 0.19
oil pump gear #1- GTS 580 1.28
cork oil pan gasket 106 0.23
oil cooler to block threaded connector 60 0.13
oil filler cap 34 0.07
GTS plastic oil filler neck 314 0.69
Oil pressure sender 150 0.33

SUBTOTAL 2802 6.18


INTAKE
upper airbox (1) 746 1.64
lower airbox (1) 754 1.66
air filter (1) 366 0.81
air cleaner box mounting brackets and standoffs (2) 92 0.20
S4 intake hoses (2) 424 0.93
intake manifold complete with temp switch, ISV, TPS, U-hose, J-hose, and rear venturi hose 10722 23.64
intake manifold stud gaksets (10) 30 0.07
intake manifold stud washers (10) 76 0.17
intake manifold stud nuts (10) 48 0.11
intake manifold stud sleeves (10) 68 0.15
intake butterfly plate and shaft 104 0.23
MAF 554 1.22
rubber MAF elbow 204 0.45
DS air elbow plastic Y-connector 8 0.02
2 hoses and venturi- around throttle quadrent 184 0.41
ISV to DS intake U hose 114 0.25
3-way vacuum hose 166 0.37
ISV to lower plenum J hose 64 0.14
pass side connecting piece, air elbow to filler neck hose, and LR valve cover hose 236 0.52
RR valve cover to LH elbow hose 106 0.23
throttle quardant and 3 pivot arms 344 0.76
throttle wheel bracket - no wheel 262 0.58
throttle cable wheel 32 0.07
vacuum hose elbows (10) 36 0.08
flappy solenoid 140 0.31
flappy vacuum actuator 62 0.14
throttle cable 80 0.18
plastic vacuum hoses and 5 way splitter 72 0.16
GTS oil control crossover hose 162 0.36

SUBTOTAL 16256 35.84


FUEL COMPONENTS
1-4 fuel rail 442 0.97
5-8 fuel rail 380 0.84
fuel rail cap and ball 32 0.07
3 fuel pressure dampers and regulator 650 1.43
front fuel hose 84 0.19
rear fuel U-hose 92 0.20
fuel inlet tube- metal part only 148 0.33
FPR bracket, U, fuel inlet connector, bracket, and front damper mounting bracket 120 0.26
right rear damper mounting bracket 24 0.05
fuel injectors (8) 700 1.54
injector retaining clips (8) 16 0.04
fuel rail insulating cover-left 190 0.42
fuel rail insulating cover- right 220 0.49
fuel vapor solenoid valve 40 0.09
tank vent vacuum valve and hose 140 0.31

SUBTOTAL 3278 7.23


AIR PUMP/INJECTION
air pump with heat shield 3300 7.28
air pump tensioning bracket
fan shroud to air pump hose
air pump to diverter valve hose 164 0.36
check valve to diverter valve hose 30 0.07
diverter check valve 118 0.26
diverter valve 266 0.59
diverter valve bracket 382 0.84
exhaust temp sensors (2) 70 0.15

SUBTOTAL 4330 9.55


Water cooling
water pump- Factory 1952 4.30
coolant outlet fitting -1-4 head 70 0.15
coolant reservoir- naked 440 0.97
coolant crossover with gasket 1214 2.68
coolant blockoff plate - 5-8 head
hose from underside of reservoir to metal Y-pipe 56 0.12
thermostat outlet neck 262 0.58
thermostat 96 0.21
928 106 275 03 coolant crossover to expansion tank hose 142 0.31
waterpump hoist bracket/plug router 180 0.40

SUBTOTAL 4412 9.73

ELECTRICAL:
starter 6916 15.25
steel starter bracket 1156 2.55
Hall sensor 40 0.09
Hall sensor cover/bracket 16 0.04
Hall sensor shield 90 0.20
CPS (short cable) 64 0.14
knock sensors (2) 152 0.34
LH harness - 93GTS 2262 4.99
FOE harness with oil pressure sender attached 2180 4.81
dist caps (2) 642 1.42
rotor (2) 120 0.26
Beru wires without brackets 1680 3.70
Engine ground cable 110 0.24
alternator with tensioning bracket 7304 16.10
LH harness bracket to RR valve cover 22 0.05
shoft coil ground wire 24 0.05
long coil ground wire 54 0.12
oxygen sensor 120 0.26

SUBTOTAL 22952 50.60

EXHAUST:
1-4 exhaust manifold 3832 8.45
5-8 exhaust manifold 3992 8.80
5-8 exhaust manifold heat shield 170 0.37
exhaust manifold gasket rings (8) 56 0.12

SUBTOTAL 8050 17.75

TOTAL WEIGHT 240833 530.96

Landseer

Gotta give you my best obama on that:

jeff spahn

Rob. You are forgetting the weight of all the horses stored in there.

77tony

So its' 625 or 521 ? T

928mac

625 sounds heavy to me but I have never weighed one. I think I will when I pull mine out in the next few weeks.
now . . How many fish scales would that be?

Rob Edwards

Someone posts the weight of everything in a gts engine to within 2 grams and you're questioning which weight is right?

Landseer

Danglerb, your data, please?

77tony

R, Lets just go with 531? Thanks, T

Landseer

probably a good choice.

Chances are Rob could even produce a reciept from Mettler showing calibration within the last 6 months, plus an independent 3rd party audit showing photographs of the calibration sticker on the scale and an entry initialed by the auditor and supervisor showing compliance, plus a note on bank letterhead declaring he had paid both entities and a xerox of the cancelled checks.

I'm thinking your good, +/- a quarter % or so.

Landseer

Then again, Mike has proven consistent at 1-liners that encompass strategy, practicality and humor, along with some very wise detailed conclusions. He's liable to surprise us with the Roadway document showing the wet weight of the engine in a crate within 10 lbs of his figure. Its not over yet....

123

You left out the valve cover gaskets, so your number is obviously way low.

AO

asphinctersezwat?

Rob Edwards

Yeah, I'm sure I left out a bunch of little things, and there's always the question of which/how many of the accessories and their brackets should count. But I'd guess 530-540 is a reasonable ballpark. There's a limit even to my OCD...