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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Stock springs on most good cars, are nice LONG linear springs.

Sport springs are generally..short progressive ones, or even if linear, are very stiff.

Springs retain the ride quality, bars and shocks bring the sport into it when you need it.


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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dr bob
If your car is a weekend driver, the Eibach springs and Bilstiens will bring a smile to your face, particularly in spirited driving. The car corners amazing flat with the Eibachs. Simpls is that double the spring rate halves the body roll. The progressive nature makes the stiffe ride tolerable. The Bilstiens give great control with the stiffer springs. Combo is much more sports-car than grand touring as far as ride quality.
Hmmm.

I've got a '79 Harley XLCR Cafe Racer. It can be ridden for about 50 miles before your butt hurts and you start squirming around looking for a spot that doesn't hurt as bad.

That's about exactly the same as a 928 with stiffer springs, in my mind.

Turns the world's finest highway touring car into an absolute worthless vehicle.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Any recent thoughts on or experiences with stock Boge plus Eibachs?
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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I must be of the minority, but the Eibach/Bilstein setup on my car by no means feels harsh to me. Yes it's more harsh then the stock springs and shocks, but I have no problem with the stiffer ride.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EspritS4s
Any recent thoughts on or experiences with stock Boge plus Eibachs?

IMHO, when you say any spring other than stock, youre just asking for a stiff cranky suspension. Cuz..with the much shorter length of travel the shorter spring has, it has to be a LOT stiffer to prevent bottoming out.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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The only car I've seen springs actually worn out was my 80K mile 944 Turbo S and it was the rear torsion bars that had softened. It was enough that the rear suspension hit the bump stops on hard acceleration.

When I replaced the rear torsion bars I went bigger, what I would call sport and not race. I quickly found I had to also upgrade the front springs, and sway bars. It had stock Koni Yellows so I was able to stiffen them enough to match the rest of the suspension. Was a different car after all the suspension bits were matched and balanced.

After that experience, if I were going to upgrade ANY part of the suspension I would SERIOUSLY look at upgrading everything to be matched and balanced.

My GTS currently has Hypercoils, Koni Reds (w/ external rebound adjustment), Devek front sway bar, and Ott Steroid drop links in the rear. With 18 inch rims it's not what I would call smooth around town, but at speed on the highways and byways it's a dream.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Makes sense. However, do you have specific experience with this on a 928 or are you generalizing?


Originally Posted by Speedtoys
IMHO, when you say any spring other than stock, youre just asking for a stiff cranky suspension. Cuz..with the much shorter length of travel the shorter spring has, it has to be a LOT stiffer to prevent bottoming out.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EspritS4s
Makes sense. However, do you have specific experience with this on a 928 or are you generalizing?


Unless physics somehow works different on a 928, than the 8 or 12 other cars that ive learned the same lessons on...im open to how a stiffer spring doesnt ride harsher than a softer one.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Thanks, that answers my question.

Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Unless physics somehow works different on a 928, than the 8 or 12 other cars that ive learned the same lessons on...im open to how a stiffer spring doesnt ride harsher than a softer one.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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What about Boge and stock springs? Thanks, Jack
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EspritS4s
Any recent thoughts on or experiences with stock Boge plus Eibachs?
I recently put Eibach springs with stock Boge shocks on my 84.
The ride is a HUGE improvement over what the worn springs and shocks were.
I like the ride and also that it is not real harsh.

If you want a stiffer ride, then Eibach with Bilstein.
My $0.02

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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom928
I recently put Eibach springs with stock Boge shocks on my 84.
The ride is a HUGE improvement over what the worn springs and shocks were.
I like the ride and also that it is not real harsh.

If you want a stiffer ride, then Eibach with Bilstein.
My $0.02

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I just did the same swap on my 84... and completely agree. Huge.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Hmmm.

I've got a '79 Harley XLCR Cafe Racer. It can be ridden for about 50 miles before your butt hurts and you start squirming around looking for a spot that doesn't hurt as bad.

That's about exactly the same as a 928 with stiffer springs, in my mind.

Turns the world's finest highway touring car into an absolute worthless vehicle.
Greg... I'd be happy to save you from more monkey-butt and take that xlcr off your hands.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike LaBranche
Greg... I'd be happy to save you from more monkey-butt and take that xlcr off your hands.
Yeah, for something that they really couldn't give away, when they were new, it has kind of turned into something different.

It's got 7,000 miles on it...damn near worn out.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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Anybody know if the Boge rear shocks #928-333-051-08 are oil or gas filled? What about the Boge fronts #928-343-055-04 ?

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