'77 ('78) Porsche 928, "Number Six", Preproduction Press Car (Updated 3-18-13)
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In the old days, the city/county letter(s) was (were) followed by a dash; today it's a space.
Then one or two letters follow.
Then a space.
Then a number with one to four digits.
You can pay a one-time fee for a personalized plate. If available, the letters and number after the "S" can be personalized. The basic look of the plate itself cannot be changed.
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Awsome find sir good to know the car is in good hands I have #38 and #131 here in Ontario both are black your lucky with that car the dash and door pannels should be made from hard plastic not pressed cardboard so you should have np having them recovered the early cars are really nice to work on if you ever need a hand or need to pick my brain feel free i'm pretty good with the CIS and wiring watch the manuals for 77/78 they are on thier own alot of the wiring is specific to these cars only i have been finding this out chasing a headlight prob in my 79 good luck i hope to see more of this car soon
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Ok Jadz..!
My baby just jumped 10 places forward..!=))
The number 8 car that I saw 2 years ago may very well be the one on the pic...
It definitely is 00018 as I checked that myself.
Have you checked with Porsche to see if you have the original engine and gearbox?
I did that with mine.
Cheers and keep us posted!
My baby just jumped 10 places forward..!=))
The number 8 car that I saw 2 years ago may very well be the one on the pic...
It definitely is 00018 as I checked that myself.
Have you checked with Porsche to see if you have the original engine and gearbox?
I did that with mine.
Cheers and keep us posted!
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The S is for Stuttgart and the rest is the code for the individual car.One or two letters and a number from 1 - 9999.
If you pay 10 € you can buy any free combination in your city.
So for my car it´s cux f 928. ;-)
If you pay 10 € you can buy any free combination in your city.
So for my car it´s cux f 928. ;-)
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Hi Jim-
Looking thru the posts but haven't seen anything indicating that you have the car in your garage. Has it arrived and if so, what was your first reaction to it?
Looking thru the posts but haven't seen anything indicating that you have the car in your garage. Has it arrived and if so, what was your first reaction to it?
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Please note that the grill in the front bumper is in body color. We had a discussion about this before, where I said the early cars had it in body color, and others said they didn't.
Now I'm wondering, if only the pre-production cars had it this way, but not the early production models. I don't know.
A little detail you may appreciate... On the title picture of Sport Auto, you can see a little red tab sticking out at the bottom of the license plate. This tab was used on all Porsche factory cars, and signaled the guys at the Werkstor (factory entrance) that a company car was approaching.
I have quite a few more German magazine articles from that time period, and will scan through them during the dark season. If you have any specific things you want me to look for, let me know. I don't think there are more pics of this particular car, though.
However, I found an original black and white press picture of a white (and dirty) early 928 with 911 headlight squirters, no beading between bumper and body, (apparently) white grill in the bumper, no wheel center caps, chipped paint on the windshield and door window trim, and black door handles. No side flashers or side markers, no sunroof, but somewhat uneven panel gaps around the hood. Two more pictures of this car in Christophorus Magazine No. 128 from April 1977.
And in Christophorus Magazine No. 130 from August 1977, on page 7, there is a Sekurit bronze glass ad showing S-CX 2135 in white, with white or missing beading between front bumper and body, better fitting hood, and the proper headlight squirters. Again, the grille appears to be in body color. On page 26, you can see S-CX 2140 in silver.
You already know that S-CX 2141 (silver) was used as a Pace Car at the 24-hours of LeMans in 1977. Same picture as in your earlier post is in Christophorus 131, October 1977, page 26. That car is shown again in Christphorus magazine 134 of April 1978, page 11 and in a Glasurit paint ad on page 14. Grill now looks flat black and again. there seems to be no beading between bumper and body.
In the same issue 134, page 121, you can see Prof. Fuhrman, Bott, Eyb and Möbius behind S-CX 2138 (black and white picture).
You will probably find more such pictures in issues 129, 132 and 133, which I don't have... yet
PS: Did you notice that in some pictures, S-CX 2137 doesn't have the trim around the lights in the bumper? Compare the Sport Auto picture with the one on MotorRevue...
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Interesting there is only one side mirror - driver's side. Also the lower spoiler grill slats are red in one mag but black in the other.
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....Please note that the grill in the front bumper is in body color. We had a discussion about this before, where I said the early cars had it in body color, and others said they didn't.
Now I'm wondering, if only the pre-production cars had it this way, but not the early production models. I don't know.
Now I'm wondering, if only the pre-production cars had it this way, but not the early production models. I don't know.
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^^^ Thanks, Ed! It could be that replacement grills came in black primer, and people installed them unpainted... Again, I don't know - it's pure speculation on my end.
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A little detail you may appreciate... On the title picture of Sport Auto, you can see a little red tab sticking out at the bottom of the license plate. This tab was used on all Porsche factory cars, and signaled the guys at the Werkstor (factory entrance) that a company car was approaching.
And in Christophorus Magazine No. 130 from August 1977, on page 7, there is a Sekurit bronze glass ad showing S-CX 2135 in white, with white or missing beading between front bumper and body, better fitting hood, and the proper headlight squirters. Again, the grille appears to be in body color...
This is one (of two( missing from my list, only having 4 of the 5 that came before #6. This fills that opening nicely, esp. with S-CX 2135 number plate.
I've updated my preproduction 928s post to reflect this.
Now we just need to find S-CX 2139, I'm guessing it's silver.
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It is clear to me the devil is in the details when researching these early cars.
The cosmetic differences you'd noted are all things I'm looking at closely. Very observant, Nicole!
Also worth mentioning is the small rectangular air foil on the driver's wiper arm.
The only appears on the later preproduction 928s, and seems to have been removed early off in production, not to return (in longer trapezoidal form) until '81/82?.
Number Six's had been replaced to the latter over the years.
Last week, I was scanning ebay for wiper arms and came across this image (see below) Seller say it was taken off an '81. Something didn't look right to me as I analyzed the pic closely.
Bought the part for $20 and it came in yesterday. What did I find?
...A square air foil wiper arm, with date of manufacture stamped '77.
Looks like I just found my first restoration bit for the red car.
Last edited by Jadz928; 10-22-2010 at 02:43 PM.
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Yep, got the WMs from Scott. All is well in Tahoe and Phoenix. Looks like you got what you were looking for. Hope the resto doesn't take too long. Looking forward to seeing it done.