Not understanding Toe-in vs trammlining- results posted
09-28-2010, 07:34 PM
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.5 turns on each side wont do much and cant change anything to the negative. It can change toe the amount we are talking about. .3degrees down to .15 degrees.
sounds like you fixed it. nice!
Mark
sounds like you fixed it. nice!
Mark
09-28-2010, 08:30 PM
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Cars will sometimes turn into absolute wandering nightmares when different brands of tires are installed, front and rear....
I had one in here a couple of months ago that was almost funny to drive...all about the two different tire brands.
I had one in here a couple of months ago that was almost funny to drive...all about the two different tire brands.
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09-28-2010, 10:09 PM
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09-29-2010, 12:36 AM
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Toe was high when they started this time, in spec after the adjustments. Toe in is all about guessing how much the suspension will flex in normal driving, so that when all the play is used up in bushings, ball joints and bearings, the tires are still going on the same direction as the opposite other. Spec is 15 minutes, or 0.25º total, with room up to 20 minutes or 0.33º total.
As much as we beat up on the folks who lift the cars for alignment, there's a very good reason why shops do this. They can check for wear and loose parts with teh suspension unloaded. When we tell a place that they can't lift the car, we also tell them that we will live with the un-verified wear that might exist in the suspension. The perfect alignmnet starts off with a check for wear on the wear parts in the suspension. Then a drive to settle things and only then check and adjust the alignment settings.
As much as we beat up on the folks who lift the cars for alignment, there's a very good reason why shops do this. They can check for wear and loose parts with teh suspension unloaded. When we tell a place that they can't lift the car, we also tell them that we will live with the un-verified wear that might exist in the suspension. The perfect alignmnet starts off with a check for wear on the wear parts in the suspension. Then a drive to settle things and only then check and adjust the alignment settings.
09-29-2010, 09:46 AM
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As often as possible Greg, as often as possible.
Okay guys, now given the numbers I have. Where do I take it from here? Looking for just a normal every day driver car. I have three corners I drive every day, a 15 mph I take at 50 at the bottom of a hill, nice and banked. A 35 off camber I take at 50 and a chicane (well that is 4 I guess). Off camber and get unweighted nicely. That's the extent of the fun I get every day beyond driving around town and down the expressway.
So throw out some tweaks and I'll take er back.
