EspritS4s

Paul,
Do you have any pics of this installed in an actual console?

Jadz928

Would like to see (or feel) the tactile application.

Do you plan to offer the DEI's (and if so, I'll remove my price look-up from the other post), or should we assume to by them on our own?

Eric Buckley

I'm in. A beautiful solution. What illumination colour do you think will blend in best with a stock interior? My interior is blue and all existing illumination is stock.

Champagne

I don't yet, but I can take some. The pictures at the top of this thread, are taken with the factory metal bezel for the factory switches. The panel is designed to fit the factory bezel and line up with the bottom of the radius.

Thanks Sterling. The DEI modules will do exactly that. Hans will be able to explain how.

We can supply the module, but we have not forced the issue since you can get a better price on eBay. We would rather just point people in the right direction.
I'm not sure why, but the guy on eBay sells them cheaper than our cost as dealer.
The prices on your link is probably the MSP, because is it much higher than the current market price.

What finish are you interested in Jim?

Paul

pcar928fan

Paul,

You are the MASTER of all things leather... is there any way you could actually make a cover for the thing in leather with round cut outs for each of the icon's...that would be a heck of an easy tactile solution for those who want leather... Sounds like it would work GREAT in my '92 GTS (you will recall it has navy blue leather! ;-) I might have to get one of these set ups for that car at some point!!!! Along with the center console carputer! YEE HA! I probably need a job first though! Ha ha!

Brett928S2

Hi Paul

You have made me think hard now with what you said about DEIs...

I have a VERY fancy alarm system a Clifford 650 with EVERY add on possible..it talks (system armed etc) , it has remote starting and lots of other functions....but also it does shut both windows and the sunroof.... which I assume means it has a dei fitted...

My problem is that the fitter when asked to give me remote "one touch open" as it had remote close on windows/sunroof, said that due to the 928s wiring it could not be done ?

All the best Brett

Ethre

Thank you. Learned my new thing for the day.
Must have been a pretty early design change then (81 maybe?) as my 82's wiper switch is located there.
I thought the factory might have used that location on some later models for hatch release. Makes sense not to be located there though.

Champagne

Hey James,

actually, the very first plan for this project, was indeed to make the cover in leather. And it is possible. However, leather being what it is, simply does not cut or engrave cleanly enough, for pictographs as small as these, to be clear and sharp.
I ran into the same thing for the HVAC controls. That is why the design evolve to what it is now with a control panel surrounded by stitched leather.
When it's all said and done, this is a lot sharper and will look right at home, whether you have an updated interior or a stock one.

Paul

Champagne

Hey Brett,

I will let Hans tackle this one. Clifford is the competitor to DEI and it would appear the similar modules are integrated into your alarm. So it might be possible for our panel to interface directly with your alarm. But since Hans designed the electronic interface board, I will let him jump in.

Just as I will be prepared to do custom work on this and the center console upgrade, I know that Hans will also offer his services for those who want custom applications, both with this panel and with the carputer and HVAC projects.

Paul

Jadz928

Paul,
Agreed, probably retail $. The link below the pic is Amazon and is close to your pricing.
I, personally, would by from you... esp if it included a properly terminated wire harness.

I would be the guy asking for ultra stock looking. Black texture, white LED, and custom graphic.

I'm also the guy waiting for the new HVAC console (and pricing thereof). I want a modern cohesive look.
I believe the two offering may do well individually but that is something I will need to see.

Brett928S2

Hi

Just a comment regarding pricing..... I suspect Paul thinks he is expensive but I do NOT...

In the UK for this sort of stuff, it would cost you hundreds and hundreds of UK pounds...as an example my fancy alarm system cost me well over £1000....

Besides which I would rather buy from Paul who even in the UK has an excellent reputation for stunning quality

All the best Brett

Champagne

Well, thank you very much, kind Sir

Paul

Champagne

These LED have a very focused light pattern (any light coming out the sides is essentially lost), and also very bright. But they have a limited choice of colors:
red, green, blue, amber and white of course.

But standard LED will also fit the holder and the choice of color there is infinite.

The panels will come standard with white, unless you request on of the other 4 colors. There is no extra charge for color.

Paul

hans14914

I will have limited access tonight (prior engagements) but will try and follow up tomorrow morning.

Brett-
Cilifford is owned by DEI, so you likely have the DEI modules installed, or something similar, which can be used. Take a look and see if your installer left you any documentation, or if the model is listed in the receipts. You may also have a "Twindows" module instead, but believe I can make that work too (may require a relay or two at worst).

Jim-
I have a friend who is an authorized DEI dealer, and I can get modules from him at his cost. However, even at his cost, the price is higher than that of ebay or amazon... etc. It will be something that we can offer, and they will have full warranty, but the simple fact is that we cant compete with other online pricing on the modules themselves. I may try and work something out in the future to try and reach a reduced cost, but till then, I can sell you a unit at low-volume near dealer pricing or you can save a couple bucks by purchasing the units on ebay and then sending me the harnesses via USPS and I will modify them for you for the cost of return postage (only applies to standard installation, custom work will be done at a reasonable hourly rate).

Paul is correct on the LED issue. The higher and more focused the LED, the better the results are. The included colors are designed to have the best characteristics, but others certainly can be used. Any standard T1-3/4 sized LED will fit in the socket. If you have a lighting kit from another vendor here on rennlist, it may be worth asking if they can source a matching T1-3/4 from the same series as used in the rest of the kit. That way you know the color is an exact match. Replacing the LED is a very simple process, but it will always be easiest to install the proper version with the panel, as most of the work will involve removing the switches from the console.

I will try and get on later tonight, but likely other questions will be answered in the morning.
Thanks,
Hans

Champagne

The finish, layout, pictographs and general feel of all of these projects is the same. The idea is precisely to have a cohesive look and feel throughout.

I can try and make a sample for you to see. But I will need it back once you are done, because I have a limited supply of light panels from our fiber optic supplier.

Paul