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Old 07-24-2010, 11:40 AM
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Thats true! one of the things i am thinking of doing is building this motor with the TEC GT engine system in mind. so that would defiantly help in the tuning area.
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Alright so i got good news and bad news from the machine shop today. the 4.7 number 5 cylinder is ballooned out .006 at top and tappers to the bottom. the 4.7 crank checked out great. the 5.0 has a scratch on number 1, but looks worse then it is, the shop thinks there is no reason not to run it. the 5.0 crank has to be ground and the connecting rod ( #6) was fixed. so on the one rod i will need 10 under bearings, but the rest of the block looks good.

sounds to me that the 4.7 is a good candidate for steel liners and stroking.

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Old 08-06-2010, 07:07 PM
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:-P bump
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Can you get a rod bearing like that?

Why do liners at all? Get a 4.7 or 5.0 block that works for you.
Old 08-06-2010, 07:44 PM
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not saying im going to do liners, but down the road if i had that cash, it would be a good one to do it too.
Old 08-06-2010, 08:32 PM
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What about using a oversized piston and boring that whole cylinder 10 over? Is that possible?
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it could be done, but im sure it would need to be replate
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Bores aren't plated, not if you use a Porsche piston that coated. You bore, then lap the surface to expose the silicon. What I don't know are the normal oversizes for pistons.
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i thought the bores were coated, hum.
Old 08-06-2010, 10:22 PM
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The entire engine is alusil - something like 14% silicon in the aluminum. Hyperuretic I think its called. Anyway, its cast this way, and the bore surface is honed in a final step with FELT PADS and PASTE, which slowly wears away the aluminum but allows the silicon to stand proud. This is what the piston rings ride up and down on.
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First oversize 97.50mm is about 3.8385826771695
Stock 97mm is about 3.8188976377994
thats about .020 inch, seems like it might work, if a source for one oversize piston could be found.
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Originally Posted by BC
The entire engine is alusil - something like 14% silicon in the aluminum. Hyperuretic I think its called. Anyway, its cast this way, and the bore surface is honed in a final step with FELT PADS and PASTE, which slowly wears away the aluminum but allows the silicon to stand proud. This is what the piston rings ride up and down on.
Just in case its not clear from Brendan's post.. and for the benefits of others reading..

Do NOT hone the cylinders in a 928 with stones.

There's been more than a few people who arrive on rennlist saying their compression is low, or they had excess oil consumption, and when they opened up the engine, it still had all the cross-hatch like new. What they mean is they took (or the PO) it to a mechanic who wasn't competent to work on an alusil engine, but who charged them an arm and a leg to do the wrong stuff to it.
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Originally Posted by Hilton
Just in case its not clear from Brendan's post.. and for the benefits of others reading..

Do NOT hone the cylinders in a 928 with stones.

There's been more than a few people who arrive on rennlist saying their compression is low, or they had excess oil consumption, and when they opened up the engine, it still had all the cross-hatch like new. What they mean is they took (or the PO) it to a mechanic who wasn't competent to work on an alusil engine, but who charged them an arm and a leg to do the wrong stuff to it.
that would suck! good thing i have nothing but time to think about what i want to do. right now i just need to figure out if lapping will help that scratch.
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Do you have anyplace local that has any experience lapping an Alusil block?



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