dprantl

Hmm... the '85-'86 have the same gearing as '87-'88. I think you mean '83-'84? Although the gearing on those is really not that much lower and the big drop in power makes them slower anyway.

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

Landseer

I put an 89 automatic into an 84 USA car. That's a very nice combo. Gearing is different, valve body is different(sporty), kick down 4 to 3 happens at just the right time/rpm range and has the right gearing for me.

Dan87951

Really... the 85-86 has a the same 2.20 rear drive ratio as the 87-88's? What about the gear ratios are they the same as well? My dad's definitely feel's faster than both my S4's to 60mph. We never dragged them though.

danglerb

Thing about an auction is that you need more than one bidder that thinks its worth X dollars.

dprantl

Yup, the final drive and all gear ratios are identical in the US '85-'88. The EuroS cars were lower. The eariler cars are 150lbs or so lighter than the S4's

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

blown 87

So what did the car go for?

pcar928fan

^^^^^^
WOW! At that rate, the 928 should go for about $10! LOL!

blown 87

I will be shocked if it goes for that.
Sad, but it may be true.

danglerb

Top two cars today ...

1 350 1970 CHEVROLET CHEVELLE SS CUSTOM COUPE $250,000.00
2 370* 1970 CHEVROLET CHEVELLE SS 454 CONVERTIBLE $253,000.00

dr bob

Just watched on Speed for a little while yesterday. Saw a few 'collector' cars but most fell in to the 'used car' category and sold for money that reflected that. Many of us here in SoCal keep cars nice so we can drive them. In other parts of the country, driving a nice car is a seasonal thing, so lots of down time to make them nicer. Means there are some cars crossing the blocks that are drivers, not necessarily show quality, but still very nice. B-J buyers are very bipolar on this; they come for the collectibles and pay little attention to the used cars. Prices reflect this. Of course, like at any auction, there's sometimes a little frenzy about a particular used car when it might have some personal relevance to the buyer. How many here bought their 928 because of an early memory of it in a film?

At B-J, the only PPI you get to do is a visual; The rest is as-described by the seller and the auction house. Two very reliable and honest sources, historically.

blown 87

I rate Craig Jackson right up there with John Hennessey and would not trust a thing either said.
To many shady deals in the past.

About the 928, is that a collector car or just a used car in you view?

James Bailey

Worth mentioning that EVERY car SELLS at BJ but not all change hands ! Some people end up buying back their own car !!! they pay the combined 18 % buy and sell fees but protect their car. If they think they have a $50,000 car but it only bids up to 20 K they can bid !! Kind like insurance at the blackjack table.... So for $4,000 they get to keep their own car ! I was at the sale Friday might stop in today it is about 6 blocks away from my house. I went over to take a ride around in the drifter cars doing the show for Ford. That was fun I saw the 928 noticed it was an auto and kept on walking....rear cover looked like it had been repainted I had not bought a bidders number so it made no difference anyway. I did notice lots of cars which were not really very nice poor body work and paint but from 10 feet they looked good and on TV they looked GREAT ! The big money cars run while the TV is rolling since some people will spend a lot of money to be on TV as the "winner" ....

dr bob

Sorry that there isn't a suitable 'tongue-in-cheek' emoticon.

Perhaps the advantage of getting a seller's description is that it's an attackable reference, virtually a guarantee if the right lawyer gets hold of it. The seller testifies that the forthcoming info is true and correct, right?

On the 928 in my driveway, it's a potential collector car to a collector someday, otherwise it's a nice used car. The market on 928's, unfortunately, is still based almost completely on miles and condition, and not on future growth/appreciation potential. There are exceptions, like 'Kermit' for example, but they are very few in the big scheme.

I drive mine regularly, and try to keep it nice. A compliment this morning after a question about its age (just old enough to drink), was that it looks brand new. It lives it's life covered inside a climate-stable cherry-doored garage, doesn't get driven in the rain on purpose, and the maintenance is current or better. There are only a couple modifications from stock, and those were very carefully considered. The list here knows them as the AC conversion with the clutch relay fix, and the recent installation of Eibach springs. The mods are easily returned to original, and all removed parts are kept for that future owner/collector's recovery if that's what spins their prop. I've been that future owner/collector, and keep the car, parts and history in the shape I'd like to receive them on ownership transfer. So it's a nice used car with all the parts and a well-documented history. Collectible by someone someday, when I'm done driving it.

Andy Kay

Sunday 2:55 PM: The 928S just sold for $20,000

fbarnhill

20k is awsome for that car. I paid 6k for my 79 Euro with 37k miles on it. For the last 4 years I have driven it every day. It now has 72 k miles. It will never be worth much in the collector car scheme so I drive it and enjoy it. I am glad the rest of the world hasn't realized their real worth. Thanks to this wierd phenomenon, I have been able to drive my favorite car for the last 25 years. I am on my 4th car. Each one has been better than the last and I have paid less for each one. In one respect I love it, in the other, I hate it. I have spent probably over 10k fixing up the 79 and I will be lucky to get 6k back for it. However, at the time, i didn't do it for resale value. I just wanted it as good as I could make it. Don't we all do that just a little?