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Old 06-10-2010, 10:26 PM
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Default How do people manage to chew up their expensive wheels so badly!?

Every used set of Porsche wheels on eBay is just chewed to crap!

Is it parallel parking in the city? Car washes? Losing control while trying to do burnouts? Letting the wife drive the car?

Are modern tires too narrow for the wheels they're on? Is the wheel rim completely exposed?

I don't get it. And I don't get why people expect so much money for chewed up wheels.

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I saw a woman go through the bank drive through in front of me with a new Mercedes E550, ground her wheels on the curb the whole length of the drive though. Absolutely horrible the see and hear the awful grinding noise. She didn't even notice as far as I could tell. Probably didn't pay for the car so she wouldn't much care anyway.
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Do you guys live in a city? I paid for my own cars and I wear out rims at about half the rate I wear out tires. It's easy to keep the rims pristine in a place where there are no sharp curbs, sidewalks, potholes, bumper to bumper parking, lanes that are narrower than the car, continuous construction on roads, nails and bolts on the road, etc. Rims are wear twice disposable items at least here in Boston.
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Originally Posted by ptuomov
Do you guys live in a city? I paid for my own cars and I wear out rims at about half the rate I wear out tires. It's easy to keep the rims pristine in a place where there are no sharp curbs, sidewalks, potholes, bumper to bumper parking, lanes that are narrower than the car, continuous construction on roads, nails and bolts on the road, etc. Rims are wear twice disposable items at least here in Boston.
That sucks.
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Originally Posted by ptuomov
Do you guys live in a city? I paid for my own cars and I wear out rims at about half the rate I wear out tires. It's easy to keep the rims pristine in a place where there are no sharp curbs, sidewalks, potholes, bumper to bumper parking, lanes that are narrower than the car, continuous construction on roads, nails and bolts on the road, etc. Rims are wear twice disposable items at least here in Boston.
I've been to Boston......You got nothin' on Toronto. We've got potholes up here that a 928 would just smooth over.

Depth perception and the right tires are the key.
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Originally Posted by 928 at last
I've been to Boston......You got nothin' on Toronto. We've got potholes up here that a 928 would just smooth over.

Depth perception and the right tires are the key.
I've been to Toronto, drove there from Chicago -- in a '86 S3. I know that you could install MLS gaskets on Toronto streets. Boston is bad. Chicago's not good either. Montreal is IMO worse than Toronto.

As far as the depth perception goes, I once exited Storrow drive in hard rain and hit a completely submerged pot hole hard enough that the tire popped off the front wheel of my Saab. They were the standard 93 tires and wheels, not some low profile performance tires. How do you perceive that (in advance?)
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Originally Posted by ptuomov
Do you guys live in a city?
What's a city? Is that a new dangle place I herd about where lots of folks live?, and have running water all the time? Gotta go have a date with my cousin!

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Chatted with Bridgestone's Formula 1 tire guy. Told me he road races and wouldn't run on anything but 16 inch wheels for road hazard protection. Guessing he could get any tire he wanted made though.
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Yeah the roads in Eastern MA are absolutely awful. It's a displeasure to drive around here, between the roads and the slow drivers paying more attention to their phones it's becoming tedious, not fun.

After SITM I realize just how bad it has gotten up here.

When roads are this bad it is inevitable that wheels will be destroyed.
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Yeah the roads in Eastern MA are absolutely awful. It's a displeasure to drive around here, between the roads and the slow drivers paying more attention to their phones it's becoming tedious, not fun. After SITM I realize just how bad it has gotten up here. When roads are this bad it is inevitable that wheels will be destroyed.
On a positive side, apparently the police pay no attention to speeding in the metro Boston area. I once drove 5 mph over the limit on Mass pike between 93 and the Copley exit, and a cop signaled me to start moving and stop blocking the traffic. This story is true, I am not making it up. The community standard is that 15 mph over the limit is the average. (You're right that there are some ignorant people who're not with the program, driving at the theoretical speed limit in their priuses and whatnot.)
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Lower profile tires reduces the "scrub" area. Many cities, especially those on the east coast have almost vertical curb walls made from cut stone while in newer western cities, except San Francisco, curbs are poured and pressed concrete that are angled away from the wheel. Oh, and the loss of "curb feelers" on cars in the 1970's.

Wife used to bust/bend a wheel or irreparably damage a tire on potholes in San Francisco where she worked at least three times a year. She is a good and aware driver but the potholes were everywhere. Expensive to do on a Mini "S" with the run flat tires.
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Originally Posted by ptuomov
On a positive side, apparently the police pay no attention to speeding in the metro Boston area. I once drove 5 mph over the limit on Mass pike between 93 and the Copley exit, and a cop signaled me to start moving and stop blocking the traffic. This story is true, I am not making it up. The community standard is that 15 mph over the limit is the average. (You're right that there are some ignorant people who're not with the program, driving at the theoretical speed limit in their priuses and whatnot.)
Pfhhh....You need to move down here. GA has the best roads in the nation and the Prius drivers are moving along at 75mph...and getting run over. If the cops are doing less than 80 they are getting passed. Gotta love the south!

Oh and the wheels on all my cars are pristine and I keep them that way.
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Don't forget the baboons who put on your new tires, they add their own injuries to fine wheels!
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Originally Posted by shmark
Pfhhh....You need to move down here. GA has the best roads in the nation and the Prius drivers are moving along at 75mph...and getting run over. If the cops are doing less than 80 they are getting passed. Gotta love the south!

Oh and the wheels on all my cars are pristine and I keep them that way.
Mark that is exactly what I experienced when driving in VA, NC and TN over the past weekend. My wife even commented how nice the roads were and how much better the driving experience is and she is not by any means a car gal.

Very depressing being a car guy in these parts. I wonder if our state is doing it on purpose to get more people using the railways.
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On a positive side, apparently the police pay no attention to speeding in the metro Boston area. I once drove 5 mph over the limit on Mass pike between 93 and the Copley exit, and a cop signaled me to start moving and stop blocking the traffic. This story is true, I am not making it up. The community standard is that 15 mph over the limit is the average.
the first time I was in Boston, by the time we made it to our hotel I was white knuckled and my wife commented she was surprised we had not see a wreck.

my response, " SEEN ... hell. I am surprised we were not IN ONE."

in the city interstate, 80+mph, bumper to bumper. kinda like club racing...


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