Comparing 928 to a C4 vette maint wise.
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I believe 91 and up are the newer body style. 91s? had the ZF 6 speed, which you don't want.
Shop around for one. My buddy finally sold his 91 6MT for $6000 after trying for 9 months. It was a 400hp car and ran around 13.2@108 in the 1/4. That's pretty good performance/$.
Shop around for one. My buddy finally sold his 91 6MT for $6000 after trying for 9 months. It was a 400hp car and ran around 13.2@108 in the 1/4. That's pretty good performance/$.
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I owned an extremely clean and well preserved C4 1986 Corvette for 7 years, only selling it last year..... I have owned a 928 (1984, 1981) for a short period of time, like 2 months. So far the Corvette is far ahead of the 928's (better than) the 928's in that all its rubber seals were good, most all its hoses were good, the electrical connections did not fall apart on first touch, and parts were far far far and away cheaper. The Corvette was only slightly easier to work on than the 928.
I did get great gas mileage on the road, (like 28.5 mpg at 70+mph) and all its electronics worked on it from the day I got until the day I sold it... no constant fussing with relays, no messing with fuses all the time, and the AC, cruise control, electric seats, windows, heater etc etc all worked when ever needed. I did have to replace the instrument cluster due to it sitting in the TX sun too much, (burnt the LCD to the extent contast was bad) but that was it for electronics issues. No ground cleaning necessary. I did have an O2 sensor fail, replaced a failed water pump, replaced 4 universal joints, and an EGR valve. The car had 80k on it when I bought it, and I added 30k.....
All that said I greatly prefer the 928 but it troubles me how many of the rubber parts and electrical connections are defective.....and how many of the rest of the 928's have similar problems....
I did get great gas mileage on the road, (like 28.5 mpg at 70+mph) and all its electronics worked on it from the day I got until the day I sold it... no constant fussing with relays, no messing with fuses all the time, and the AC, cruise control, electric seats, windows, heater etc etc all worked when ever needed. I did have to replace the instrument cluster due to it sitting in the TX sun too much, (burnt the LCD to the extent contast was bad) but that was it for electronics issues. No ground cleaning necessary. I did have an O2 sensor fail, replaced a failed water pump, replaced 4 universal joints, and an EGR valve. The car had 80k on it when I bought it, and I added 30k.....
All that said I greatly prefer the 928 but it troubles me how many of the rubber parts and electrical connections are defective.....and how many of the rest of the 928's have similar problems....
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If it were me, I'd drive a C-4 then drive an S-4 and select the one I like best based on performance, style, comfort and driving characteristics.
Maintenance cost of the two are going to be similar, repairs costs is a different story. There are plenty of mechanics that know how to repair Corvettes, but 928’s… not so much. If you do your own wrenching, it’s really not an issue unless you are trying to resurrect a basket case.
Truth be told, most people buy on emotion and then try to justify using logic… follow your gut; you’ll be happier in the long run.
Maintenance cost of the two are going to be similar, repairs costs is a different story. There are plenty of mechanics that know how to repair Corvettes, but 928’s… not so much. If you do your own wrenching, it’s really not an issue unless you are trying to resurrect a basket case.
Truth be told, most people buy on emotion and then try to justify using logic… follow your gut; you’ll be happier in the long run.
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I owned an extremely clean and well preserved C4 1986 Corvette for 7 years, only selling it last year..... I have owned a 928 (1984, 1981) for a short period of time, like 2 months. So far the Corvette is far ahead of the 928's (better than) the 928's in that all its rubber seals were good, most all its hoses were good, the electrical connections did not fall apart on first touch, and parts were far far far and away cheaper. The Corvette was only slightly easier to work on than the 928.
I did get great gas mileage on the road, (like 28.5 mpg at 70+mph) and all its electronics worked on it from the day I got until the day I sold it... no constant fussing with relays, no messing with fuses all the time, and the AC, cruise control, electric seats, windows, heater etc etc all worked when ever needed. I did have to replace the instrument cluster due to it sitting in the TX sun too much, (burnt the LCD to the extent contast was bad) but that was it for electronics issues. No ground cleaning necessary. I did have an O2 sensor fail, replaced a failed water pump, replaced 4 universal joints, and an EGR valve. The car had 80k on it when I bought it, and I added 30k.....
All that said I greatly prefer the 928 but it troubles me how many of the rubber parts and electrical connections are defective.....and how many of the rest of the 928's have similar problems....
I did get great gas mileage on the road, (like 28.5 mpg at 70+mph) and all its electronics worked on it from the day I got until the day I sold it... no constant fussing with relays, no messing with fuses all the time, and the AC, cruise control, electric seats, windows, heater etc etc all worked when ever needed. I did have to replace the instrument cluster due to it sitting in the TX sun too much, (burnt the LCD to the extent contast was bad) but that was it for electronics issues. No ground cleaning necessary. I did have an O2 sensor fail, replaced a failed water pump, replaced 4 universal joints, and an EGR valve. The car had 80k on it when I bought it, and I added 30k.....
All that said I greatly prefer the 928 but it troubles me how many of the rubber parts and electrical connections are defective.....and how many of the rest of the 928's have similar problems....
Now that makes sense… comparing a pristine well cared for Vette against a sun rotten time belt failed beater 928.
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I am curious Kurt as to what your qualifications are to tell me one of my cars is pristine and the other is a beater? Since I don't think you have ever seen either of them you might want to reconsider your unsolicited opinion.
By the way, you are wrong on both points.
By the way, you are wrong on both points.
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Okay, so I might have exaggerated a bit, but I don't think I'm that far off.
https://rennlist.com/forums/7591926-post19.html
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https://rennlist.com/forums/7522587-post25.html
Okay, so I might have exaggerated a bit, but I don't think I'm that far off.
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I owned an extremely clean and well preserved C4 1986 Corvette for 7 years, only selling it last year..... I have owned a 928 (1984, 1981) for a short period of time, like 2 months. So far the Corvette is far ahead of the 928's (better than) the 928's in that all its rubber seals were good, most all its hoses were good, the electrical connections did not fall apart on first touch, and parts were far far far and away cheaper. The Corvette was only slightly easier to work on than the 928.
I did get great gas mileage on the road, (like 28.5 mpg at 70+mph) and all its electronics worked on it from the day I got until the day I sold it... no constant fussing with relays, no messing with fuses all the time, and the AC, cruise control, electric seats, windows, heater etc etc all worked when ever needed. I did have to replace the instrument cluster due to it sitting in the TX sun too much, (burnt the LCD to the extent contast was bad) but that was it for electronics issues. No ground cleaning necessary. I did have an O2 sensor fail, replaced a failed water pump, replaced 4 universal joints, and an EGR valve. The car had 80k on it when I bought it, and I added 30k.....
All that said I greatly prefer the 928 but it troubles me how many of the rubber parts and electrical connections are defective.....and how many of the rest of the 928's have similar problems....
I did get great gas mileage on the road, (like 28.5 mpg at 70+mph) and all its electronics worked on it from the day I got until the day I sold it... no constant fussing with relays, no messing with fuses all the time, and the AC, cruise control, electric seats, windows, heater etc etc all worked when ever needed. I did have to replace the instrument cluster due to it sitting in the TX sun too much, (burnt the LCD to the extent contast was bad) but that was it for electronics issues. No ground cleaning necessary. I did have an O2 sensor fail, replaced a failed water pump, replaced 4 universal joints, and an EGR valve. The car had 80k on it when I bought it, and I added 30k.....
All that said I greatly prefer the 928 but it troubles me how many of the rubber parts and electrical connections are defective.....and how many of the rest of the 928's have similar problems....
I plan on replacing my weather stripping with new GM stuff every other year, and do replace it, the aftermarket stuff is just junk, been down that road also.
Nothing fits like GM and nothing falls apart like GM weather stripping.
Electrically there is not near the amount of things to break on a C4 of the same year model as a 928.
And the electrical parts on a C4 fall apart as often or more than on a 928, again not as much there.
I am on my third digi dash, countless switches, relays, sensors and what nots on my C4, so I am going to call them about equal, even though there is a lot more on the 928.
Parts for the Chevy are cheaper, and they are cheaper because they are built cheaper, flimsy made in China stuff that comes in a GM box.
There is absolutely no comparison in the build quality, the 928 is light years ahead.
Pro's for the Vette, it feels quicker and lighter around town, it is far cheaper to buy, and maintain than a 928 and lots of folks can and do work on them, almost any shop has the ability to look at the data stream on a Corvette, not so much with the 928.
My guess is that I see and work on, far more Corvettes and 928's than you do, so maybe that is why we have different outlooks on them.
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I posted something else but read the subject wrong. Tired from all the work I have been doing to her. Polish,buff,sand, wash, wax etc etc in 90 degree heat. I need to start working again. Time to get back to the courts!
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I owned an extremely clean and well preserved C4 1986 Corvette for 7 years, only selling it last year..... I have owned a 928 (1984, 1981) for a short period of time, like 2 months. So far the Corvette is far ahead of the 928's (better than) the 928's in that all its rubber seals were good, most all its hoses were good, the electrical connections did not fall apart on first touch, and parts were far far far and away cheaper. The Corvette was only slightly easier to work on than the 928.
I did get great gas mileage on the road, (like 28.5 mpg at 70+mph) and all its electronics worked on it from the day I got until the day I sold it... no constant fussing with relays, no messing with fuses all the time, and the AC, cruise control, electric seats, windows, heater etc etc all worked when ever needed. I did have to replace the instrument cluster due to it sitting in the TX sun too much, (burnt the LCD to the extent contast was bad) but that was it for electronics issues. No ground cleaning necessary. I did have an O2 sensor fail, replaced a failed water pump, replaced 4 universal joints, and an EGR valve. The car had 80k on it when I bought it, and I added 30k.....
All that said I greatly prefer the 928 but it troubles me how many of the rubber parts and electrical connections are defective.....and how many of the rest of the 928's have similar problems....
I did get great gas mileage on the road, (like 28.5 mpg at 70+mph) and all its electronics worked on it from the day I got until the day I sold it... no constant fussing with relays, no messing with fuses all the time, and the AC, cruise control, electric seats, windows, heater etc etc all worked when ever needed. I did have to replace the instrument cluster due to it sitting in the TX sun too much, (burnt the LCD to the extent contast was bad) but that was it for electronics issues. No ground cleaning necessary. I did have an O2 sensor fail, replaced a failed water pump, replaced 4 universal joints, and an EGR valve. The car had 80k on it when I bought it, and I added 30k.....
All that said I greatly prefer the 928 but it troubles me how many of the rubber parts and electrical connections are defective.....and how many of the rest of the 928's have similar problems....
My current shark is the oldest one I have owned, and all rubber lines are still nice and supple, connectors are good, etc. It was garage kept and very low miles. It's all about what you buy to start with, which is often based on how much you want to spend, how long you shop and so forth. I'd rather start with a pristine 928 rather than a pristine vette, but I do love the vettes, especially the C5 body. I'll probably get one of those at some point.
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Driven the vet an driven my OB. My 928 is a superior car. Couldn't make me buy a vette. Love the way they look and sound but then you open the door and have to sit in the thing. The shifter is way high and nothing really seems to fit!
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My Father has a Vette same era as my 928. Paid about the same when we got them both, he can't sell his for 1/2 of what paid, mine about same value. Vette rattles like crazy, very cheep looking interior, gauges digital etc. but fun to drive, a good deal for the $3500 you can pay for a 88.
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A little off topic but something I cant seem to get a clear answer on...C4 Corvette comfort vs. 928 comfort. I know the 928 is the elite GT car and would not expect a C4 to rival this attribute of the Porsche, but from anyone's experience, is the C4 adequate for long trips, say 8-10 hours?
I prefer 928s, but like the author of this thread can appreciate the compromise regarding cost-of-ownership. Because they are so much cheaper to maintain and to find service for (particularly in BFE), the corvette presents a realistic challenge to the 928.
I prefer 928s, but like the author of this thread can appreciate the compromise regarding cost-of-ownership. Because they are so much cheaper to maintain and to find service for (particularly in BFE), the corvette presents a realistic challenge to the 928.
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The 928 is a better highway cruiser and weekend get away car. 6 or 8 hours in 928 and arrive feeling great. Also, think about luggage… my wife and I aren’t the lightest packers:
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Three suitcases, a beach bag, laptop case, camera bag, a case of beer, some wine, a cooler, a box of food, two folding chairs, a couple presents, a detail bucket with cleaning supplies, oil, tools, etc… made for a nice weekend.![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the rear of mine is handicapped by 4 or 5 inches because of this:
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So the spare tire is hidding under the gift wrapped present. Try that in a C4.
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Three suitcases, a beach bag, laptop case, camera bag, a case of beer, some wine, a cooler, a box of food, two folding chairs, a couple presents, a detail bucket with cleaning supplies, oil, tools, etc… made for a nice weekend.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the rear of mine is handicapped by 4 or 5 inches because of this:
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So the spare tire is hidding under the gift wrapped present. Try that in a C4.
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A little off topic but something I cant seem to get a clear answer on...C4 Corvette comfort vs. 928 comfort. I know the 928 is the elite GT car and would not expect a C4 to rival this attribute of the Porsche, but from anyone's experience, is the C4 adequate for long trips, say 8-10 hours?
I prefer 928s, but like the author of this thread can appreciate the compromise regarding cost-of-ownership. Because they are so much cheaper to maintain and to find service for (particularly in BFE), the corvette presents a realistic challenge to the 928.
I prefer 928s, but like the author of this thread can appreciate the compromise regarding cost-of-ownership. Because they are so much cheaper to maintain and to find service for (particularly in BFE), the corvette presents a realistic challenge to the 928.
It is kind of a joke in the Corvette world that the reason for the C5 was so many folks could not fit in the C4, it is like wearing a glove instead of sitting on a chair.
No problem with a 8-10 hour drive in a nice C4.
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Hands down the 928 is a better highway cruiser. 6 or 8 hours in a C4 and your kidney's are going to drop, not so in a 928. Also, think about luggage… my wife and I aren’t exactly light packers:
Lets see that's... three suitcases, a beach bag, laptop case, camera bag, a case of beer, some wine, a cooler, box of food, two folding chairs, a couple presents, bug candle, paper towels, a detail bucket with cleaning supplies, oil, tools, etc… made for a nice long weekend.
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But granted, the 928 is a better car on the highway, and the C4 is better for local driving.
One thing that has not been brought up about the C4 is that they leak, every one of the MANY I have been in leaked, squeaked and rattled, and the later (after 89 IIRC) were not called flexible flyers for nothing, if you take the top off of a coupe and push it you will see exactly what I mean by that.
Many of them, even the early ones have cracked tops from frame flex.