Landseer

Stan, I have a 12 way on my bench downstairs.

A couple pictures that might help a little.

Power of course enters the pigtail somewhere within the 14 pin connector.

Power enters the memory board itself as shown, towards the side of the seat nearest the TT tunnel.

Hope its at least frozen in a somewhat elevated position for you.

Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net

Thanks, yes it is elevated and forward, not comfortable to drive, but better to work on. I will see if I can get a hand in there.

SQLGuy

Normally, it would be easy - just two 5mm allen bolts in the front, and four in the back. A 10 minute job with a decent ball-end allen wrench (assuming you don't run into a frozen bolt like I did on my passenger seat.) However, normally, the procedure is to move the seat full forward to be able to reach the back bolts, then full back to get to the front ones. With the seat not moving, this would be much more tedious.

As I recall, you can remove the front bottom plastic cover to access the manual interface to move the seat....

frustrated

If its anything like an S4 its a PIA. Connector attached to seat frame at the back and under seat. Hard to play with without taking the seat out. Its a split connector. 3 wires in one side (female connectors) and 3push fit male connectors that push into the other side casing and into the other 3. Need to push the 3 protruding ones in really hard to make them connect. Have one slightly out and nothing works! Admittedly mine are sports seats and not memory ones so it may be different!

Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net

Guess I need a ball end wrench then, it always seems like a two project when I have had to remove seats. Of course I always seem to be doing it with non-working seats.

SQLGuy

Yeah, you pretty much need the ball-end wrench for the front pair of the back bolts... but it makes all of them easier, regardless.

I've had both front seats out of my S4 over the past few weeks, and, other than the one frozen bolt (to which I had to weld a driver bit to get it out!), it was pretty quick and easy.

The allen wrenches I'm using are some Wiha ones I bought while in Germany, but I don't think you have to have German wrenches for a German car. ;-)

These are similar: http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Bal.../dp/B001DDBM3W

Cheers,
Paul

frustrated

Make sure the car is on the flat or like me you might lose a spacer under the upper floor. Took me 3 hours to get it out with drill, wire coat hanger and magnet.

Champagne

Stan,

before going through all this trouble, are you sure the fuse is good. I know you said you checked it, but just replace it to make sure.

If the fuse is good, and you do not have any of the functions working, there is a good chance that the problem is with the main power feed.

Can you actually see/feel the main connector?
If not, you can just apply 12V to the elevator motors and raise the seat to give you more room. They are the 2 exterior ones at the front of the seat.

If that doesn't help, you can also jump the center motor and move the seat back and forth to reach the bolts. You probably won't have to take the seat out of the car, just tilt it onto the back seat and see what's wrong.

Paul

Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net

I swapped the fuse from pass. seat to driver seat socket. Passenger seat works.

I really can't see much under there and can barely move my hand in there. I think the seat needs to come out.

I am going to put this on the detailer and see if a local mechanic is willing to deal with it. The detailer said he would cover it. I just don't need the hassle, and also have enough projects going.

Besides when I pull the seats I would like to ship them out for the sport seat conversion and recovering

Thanks for the thoughts.