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Old 04-23-2010, 04:53 PM
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minimal, it would be used 968 pistons, rings, headgasket, and the rods and stroker crank set. $5k to $7500 for the parts and the rest is just assembly time. Just bolt on power!

Now, just think of the performance Im enjoying with "only" a stroker! There is nothing around even close to the bang for the buck. Look what guys have to do to keep up! Or, just go a second or two slower and use a stock S4 with no other mods than a bolt on suspension package, and a set of headers. Is there anything that can keep up with that level of modification? I think not.

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How much does this "only" stroker costs?
Old 04-24-2010, 04:16 AM
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I liked it, but its completely a different experience. Slow as ****, actually, with no boost or extra ccs. I was shocked by how slow it was. Very nimble - I have always wanted a mid engined car.

It would be fun. Not alot of room in the cabin.
For discussion sake, I think I should chime in a little. Comment like "slow as ****" loses credibility. http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Media/ma...990-12-sci.htm
I am just a 46 year old everyday car guy who is one of the biggest fans of the 928. I had always wanted a 928 since being a teenager and I am a true Porsche enthusiast who had visited the Porsche factory a few times. Out of all of the data I have looked at, the NSX always have had great run times and I have not seen any 928 with better acceleration than an NSX to denounce the NSX as "slow as ****." Even though my screen name is whiteNSXs, I am not here to defend the NSX but just being a fellow 928 owner. I just happen to have owned 3 white NSXs and currently still drive a 1994 black coupe and a 2001 white coupe. When the NSX came out in 1991, it was a top of the line product from a very capable company. My 2001 coupe is particularly one of the fastest among the 3.2 liter NSXs. Similar cars have 0-60 in 4.7 second and 1/4 mile of low 13's. in 1991, the NSX's level of sophistication was second to none. As a car guy with an open mind, I found the NSX to be beautiful, extremely fast and agile. It's interior is straight from the 928 but with better ergonomics. I am 6 ft tall at 175lbs and there is more than enough room for a 225lb guy with similar height. My 928 is an automatic which is the slowest car in my garage. I cannot comment on the manual 928 since I have not driven one lately. As far as the handling, I can drive my NSX faster than I can with the 928 in the corners. The 928 feels heavy but it is a GT. I am not a very capable driver but just someone who attended a few HPDEs. I have driven in Laguna Seca, Thunderhill, Sears, and Suzuka Circuit. I rotate 4 cars as daily drivers so I truly am just speaking from a owner of these 4 cars. This is not about "my dad can beat up your dad' kind of discussion. I love the 928 or else I would not own one. The NSX has its flaws too but I feel that it is a better performance car than my 928. Afterall, the 928 is a GT and the NSX is at least 10 years younger.
I am selling the black coupe on this thread.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133730
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
Look what guys have to do to keep up! Or, just go a second or two slower and use a stock S4 with no other mods than a bolt on suspension package, and a set of headers. Is there anything that can keep up with that level of modification? I think not.—mk
Takes a supercharger on the NSX and S2000 for .3 seconds on a 90 second lap autocross against my GTS with suspension and an x-pipe. Before putting on the superchargers they were typically a full second slower. The S2000 guy was pretty disappointed the supercharger only gained him a little over a second a lap compared to my GTS.
Old 04-24-2010, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteNSXs
For discussion sake, I think I should chime in a little. Comment like "slow as ****" loses credibility. http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Media/ma...990-12-sci.htm
I am just a 46 year old everyday car guy who is one of the biggest fans of the 928. I had always wanted a 928 since being a teenager and I am a true Porsche enthusiast who had visited the Porsche factory a few times. Out of all of the data I have looked at, the NSX always have had great run times and I have not seen any 928 with better acceleration than an NSX to denounce the NSX as "slow as ****." Even though my screen name is whiteNSXs, I am not here to defend the NSX but just being a fellow 928 owner. I just happen to have owned 3 white NSXs and currently still drive a 1994 black coupe and a 2001 white coupe. When the NSX came out in 1991, it was a top of the line product from a very capable company. My 2001 coupe is particularly one of the fastest among the 3.2 liter NSXs. Similar cars have 0-60 in 4.7 second and 1/4 mile of low 13's. in 1991, the NSX's level of sophistication was second to none. As a car guy with an open mind, I found the NSX to be beautiful, extremely fast and agile. It's interior is straight from the 928 but with better ergonomics. I am 6 ft tall at 175lbs and there is more than enough room for a 225lb guy with similar height. My 928 is an automatic which is the slowest car in my garage. I cannot comment on the manual 928 since I have not driven one lately. As far as the handling, I can drive my NSX faster than I can with the 928 in the corners. The 928 feels heavy but it is a GT. I am not a very capable driver but just someone who attended a few HPDEs. I have driven in Laguna Seca, Thunderhill, Sears, and Suzuka Circuit. I rotate 4 cars as daily drivers so I truly am just speaking from a owner of these 4 cars. This is not about "my dad can beat up your dad' kind of discussion. I love the 928 or else I would not own one. The NSX has its flaws too but I feel that it is a better performance car than my 928. Afterall, the 928 is a GT and the NSX is at least 10 years younger.
I am selling the black coupe on this thread.
Great post, awesome cars and garage Steve!!
Old 04-24-2010, 09:48 AM
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I went to look a one at dealership NEW, STICKER $100,000 when it first came out.
Old 04-24-2010, 11:32 AM
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To some of the guys on here anytihing is a POS compared to the 928...I would tend to listen to the previous poster who happens to own NSX + 928..
Old 04-24-2010, 11:57 AM
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Plus one for steve! Nice garage! I wish I owned your cars too!

Beautiful black on black NSX. Looks awesome! If I had 30k it would go into my928, but if I had another 30k plus I would buy your NSX!

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Old 04-24-2010, 01:58 PM
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Ah - I understand where your perspective is. I will clarify.

A honda accord is faster than an early 928 in a straight line. It could probably beat it around a track with a good set of tires.

A Porsche 928 for most years before 85 or so, is slow as molasses.

The NSX I drove was okay, but slow as **** compared to:

1) How much it is new
2) How much it is used
3) How great it looks
4) How expensive upgrades are.

Do I still want one? SURE AS **** I do!

Further more - I have owned 7 928s. Some of them are even still assembled and running. Some may be re-assembled soon. I love these cars. I sleep, breath, and eat them and any other interesting petrol beast.

But I am a strange human. I can hold two completely different/opposite logical and rational notions in my mind at the same time, and be completely honest in my opinion at both extremes.




Originally Posted by whiteNSXs
For discussion sake, I think I should chime in a little. Comment like "slow as ****" loses credibility. http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Media/ma...990-12-sci.htm
I am just a 46 year old everyday car guy who is one of the biggest fans of the 928. I had always wanted a 928 since being a teenager and I am a true Porsche enthusiast who had visited the Porsche factory a few times. Out of all of the data I have looked at, the NSX always have had great run times and I have not seen any 928 with better acceleration than an NSX to denounce the NSX as "slow as ****." Even though my screen name is whiteNSXs, I am not here to defend the NSX but just being a fellow 928 owner. I just happen to have owned 3 white NSXs and currently still drive a 1994 black coupe and a 2001 white coupe. When the NSX came out in 1991, it was a top of the line product from a very capable company. My 2001 coupe is particularly one of the fastest among the 3.2 liter NSXs. Similar cars have 0-60 in 4.7 second and 1/4 mile of low 13's. in 1991, the NSX's level of sophistication was second to none. As a car guy with an open mind, I found the NSX to be beautiful, extremely fast and agile. It's interior is straight from the 928 but with better ergonomics. I am 6 ft tall at 175lbs and there is more than enough room for a 225lb guy with similar height. My 928 is an automatic which is the slowest car in my garage. I cannot comment on the manual 928 since I have not driven one lately. As far as the handling, I can drive my NSX faster than I can with the 928 in the corners. The 928 feels heavy but it is a GT. I am not a very capable driver but just someone who attended a few HPDEs. I have driven in Laguna Seca, Thunderhill, Sears, and Suzuka Circuit. I rotate 4 cars as daily drivers so I truly am just speaking from a owner of these 4 cars. This is not about "my dad can beat up your dad' kind of discussion. I love the 928 or else I would not own one. The NSX has its flaws too but I feel that it is a better performance car than my 928. Afterall, the 928 is a GT and the NSX is at least 10 years younger.
I am selling the black coupe on this thread.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133730
Steve
Old 04-24-2010, 02:00 PM
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Oh - and GLWS on your black NSX. That car looks nearly perfect visually. I imagine how fun a Stroked Supercharged NSX could be.
Old 04-24-2010, 03:25 PM
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I never thought I would own a Japanese sports car until I drove mine. I've owned this '94 since '96 when it had 13,000 miles. Now at 135,000 and no more maintenance than a timing belt and water pump at 100,000 ($1,400 at the Acura dealer - could be $2,200 for the same job at another) and an HVAC circuit board ($100 rebuilt), it has been faultless.
As far a power is concerned, seat of the beholder - very quick for me. it's stock except for Comptech intake and exhaust. I've never 'challenged' my cars. I've driven/owned nearly all of them. There's nothing like an NSX. I love my S4. It is a totally different automobile. Go for it Steve!
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Old 04-24-2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BC
Ah - I understand where your perspective is. I will clarify.

A honda accord is faster than an early 928 in a straight line. It could probably beat it around a track with a good set of tires.

A Porsche 928 for most years before 85 or so, is slow as molasses.

The NSX I drove was okay, but slow as **** compared to:

1) How much it is new
2) How much it is used
3) How great it looks
4) How expensive upgrades are.

Do I still want one? SURE AS **** I do!

Further more - I have owned 7 928s. Some of them are even still assembled and running. Some may be re-assembled soon. I love these cars. I sleep, breath, and eat them and any other interesting petrol beast.

But I am a strange human. I can hold two completely different/opposite logical and rational notions in my mind at the same time, and be completely honest in my opinion at both extremes.

Thanks for your clarification, BC.
When the 928 came out and ruled the highways, it was in a class of its own. Nothing came close to it's performance, quality, and sophistication. The early 928 was even more so superior to all other cars in the late 70's. As it aged, the development was hampered by its 1970's root and automotive technologies had soared greatly. Nonetheless, it was very ahead of its time and was still kicking all asses out there throughout the 1980's. When the 928GTS came out, it finally hit the end of its span and went out with a bang. it was truly a milestone car and a great platform for others to learn on. The NSX was heavily influenced by the 928 in its designs and philosophies. I could own much faster cars but the 928 was what shaped my tastes of automobiles. The choice of the NSX was actually based on the fact that its interior came straight from the 928. It is flowing with style and ergonomics. When I first saw the 928's interior in the early 1980's, my eyes almost popped out. It was simply the most gorgeous "thing" in life. Well, I'll take it back. Lynda Carter was.
The NSX clearly did very well to have copied that interior.
Second, the "NSX" font is actually "Porsche 928" font. That's another visual subliminal attraction to lure me to the NSX.
When Honda, a company probably at least 10 times as big as Porsche at the time, wanted to make a flagship car with its tremendous R&D, resources, F1 racing dominances, and star drivers like Senna and Prost, the result was the NSX.
It captured the same philosophy as the 928, performance, grace, and finesse. Pretty much the same slap to Ferrari's face that 928 gave Ferrarri all along. Being exotic does not mean to be trashy engineerings with a pretty face.
Being 14 years newer than the 928, the NSX does have the unfair advantage of having a newer level of automotive sophistication. But that's reality as cruel as it may be. Has anyone drive a G37 coupe lately?
Anyway, my dream finally came true after owning 4 NSXs and 4 911 Carreras. The Wonder Woman is in my garage. I strongly recommend all 928 lovers to own an NSX at some point.
Check out my 2001 Coupe here. The one and only 3.2 liter white hardtop NSX in the USA.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122525
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:18 PM
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I've driven NSX's on the street and ridden in stock-ish NSX's on the track.....the NSX does feel quite a bit different than the 928...mostly due to its lighter weight and mid engine design...so the car behaves differently than a 928....I wouldn't say better, just different.... I would say the 928 is more comfortable as a daily driver...but the NSX is a bit more sporty



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