78 5speed w 14k miles $18k 1 owner
04-07-2010, 03:13 AM
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I prefer low miles car. At least you feel like you're the only owner that take care of it.Mine haven't reach the 1k Miles yet(980 Miles). I'm just waiting for the PKtensioner/Porken from Roger.
04-07-2010, 05:29 AM
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This is just way too YMMV. There are a good dozen things or more that factor in the value of a car, and each of those things don't mean the same to everyone.
Low mileage doesn't mean much to me, and I agree with Greg that low mileage cars can have HUGE amount of PM just waiting for the first person to really drive the car like a Porsche. I also agree that sometimes they might be dandy and need almost nothing, but its a roll of the dice even with a good PPI until that first few thousand miles goes on.
This isn't a great truth that we all need to agree on, its personal taste.
Low mileage doesn't mean much to me, and I agree with Greg that low mileage cars can have HUGE amount of PM just waiting for the first person to really drive the car like a Porsche. I also agree that sometimes they might be dandy and need almost nothing, but its a roll of the dice even with a good PPI until that first few thousand miles goes on.
This isn't a great truth that we all need to agree on, its personal taste.
04-07-2010, 10:07 AM
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They will both need repairs, it is just that the one that is not driven the owner will not know it needs repairs because it is not being driven.
I am more than a little red faced about asking what you do every day, I had forgotten you were in a wheel chair.
We are just not going to agree on this, so I am going to leave it at that.
I am more than a little red faced about asking what you do every day, I had forgotten you were in a wheel chair.
We are just not going to agree on this, so I am going to leave it at that.
Greg,
Thanks for asking...you probably have seen more cars than me working on them everyday.
Right now I sit on my A$$, well I do that anyway, but right now unemployed ***, but before before that I drove cars everyday as a sales rep, so no, I didn't work on many 928's...to hard to do from a wheelchair!
I have put 40k miles on my '88 S4 (10k of those on track), 20k miles on my '94 GTS, 20k miles on my '81, 5k miles on my '84, 120 miles on BLUE82, and probably close to 20k miles on my '92 GTS...I have put 0 miles on my EURO85 and only several hours on my race car...
So, yea, you probably know WAY more than I do about owning low mileage 928's and who exactly says "every 928 needs $10k worth of work"? I have seen Jim Bailey post about crappy cars that they are $10k away from being a $5k car, but I have never seen anyone post "every 928 needs $10K worth of work." That is ABSURD!
Greg, I just read your last post here and you state, "A low mileage car that is never driven will not need repairs, a well maintained car that is flogged will, simple as that." THAT, IS NOT WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING! I agree with that statement. What you have been saying is that this car which has barely been driven (as well as BLUE82 and all Chucks beauties) WILL NEED REPAIRS PERIOD! Then you go on to say they WILL NEED THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BEING DRIVEN! You CAN'T have it BOTH WAYS! Pick one and stick with it.
BTW, I am not pissed off at you...as you note we just see this from different perspectives is all. These are opinions, neither right nor wrong, or both right and both wrong maybe... You, as a mechanic, OBVIOUSLY see broken cars or cars that need work! OF COURSE you don't see garage queens that are so close to PERFECT...THEY DON'T NEED WORK! DUH!
That is like a surgeon saying, everyone needs surgery because all I see every day are sick people who need to be cut on... uh, YEA!
Thanks for asking...you probably have seen more cars than me working on them everyday.
Right now I sit on my A$$, well I do that anyway, but right now unemployed ***, but before before that I drove cars everyday as a sales rep, so no, I didn't work on many 928's...to hard to do from a wheelchair!
I have put 40k miles on my '88 S4 (10k of those on track), 20k miles on my '94 GTS, 20k miles on my '81, 5k miles on my '84, 120 miles on BLUE82, and probably close to 20k miles on my '92 GTS...I have put 0 miles on my EURO85 and only several hours on my race car...
So, yea, you probably know WAY more than I do about owning low mileage 928's and who exactly says "every 928 needs $10k worth of work"? I have seen Jim Bailey post about crappy cars that they are $10k away from being a $5k car, but I have never seen anyone post "every 928 needs $10K worth of work." That is ABSURD!
Greg, I just read your last post here and you state, "A low mileage car that is never driven will not need repairs, a well maintained car that is flogged will, simple as that." THAT, IS NOT WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING! I agree with that statement. What you have been saying is that this car which has barely been driven (as well as BLUE82 and all Chucks beauties) WILL NEED REPAIRS PERIOD! Then you go on to say they WILL NEED THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BEING DRIVEN! You CAN'T have it BOTH WAYS! Pick one and stick with it.
BTW, I am not pissed off at you...as you note we just see this from different perspectives is all. These are opinions, neither right nor wrong, or both right and both wrong maybe... You, as a mechanic, OBVIOUSLY see broken cars or cars that need work! OF COURSE you don't see garage queens that are so close to PERFECT...THEY DON'T NEED WORK! DUH!
That is like a surgeon saying, everyone needs surgery because all I see every day are sick people who need to be cut on... uh, YEA!
04-07-2010, 10:38 AM
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There is one other thing Chuck, I am a poor bastard, I could not afford a car like that in the first place.
All I have to go on it the work I do on other folks cars.
So it may just be a little green envy showing through on my part.
Sure I would love to start out with a 30 year old car with really low mileage and go through it, on a car for me.
I have a MB 500 SEC in the shop right now, it is a 90's car, low mileage, the bill is going to be steep just to get it to the point they can start to drive it again to see what breaks, and I am sure it is going to come back to the shop on a roll back at some point.
These cars are not for people that think, they are for people that love them, otherwise we would never touch one.
It does not make financial sense, but we do it any way.
All I have to go on it the work I do on other folks cars.
So it may just be a little green envy showing through on my part.
Sure I would love to start out with a 30 year old car with really low mileage and go through it, on a car for me.
I have a MB 500 SEC in the shop right now, it is a 90's car, low mileage, the bill is going to be steep just to get it to the point they can start to drive it again to see what breaks, and I am sure it is going to come back to the shop on a roll back at some point.
These cars are not for people that think, they are for people that love them, otherwise we would never touch one.
It does not make financial sense, but we do it any way.
This right here should have been the post that ended this discussion..... How many times has this been rehashed here????????
Truth is; if all of us could afford the very best low mileage 928 why in the hell wouldn't you buy one? A chance to own a 928 that is as close to how it came from the factory should be the dream of any self respecting 928 enthusiast. Budget is usually what drives a decision to buy or not to buy? What you do with that low mileage 928 from that point forward is completely your decision. Garage queen or daily driver...... If you had the cash would you really care? I have been blessed in my life and I've had the good fortune of owning several low mileage 928s.... Trust me, there ain't nothin like it! No, I don't drive them 10k miles per year. My 928s have been 3rd or 4th cars. I have an SUV that I put 30k miles per year on. I have never experienced the horror stories put forth here.
Fact is, all 928s break at some point; even cars that are driven..... just look through the posts on this list!
If the car in question here has been at all maintained I'd bet there is not nearly the catch up maintenance being bantered about here........
04-07-2010, 10:47 AM
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I've had low mileage old cars and high mileage well maintained by the PO cars. Both required maintenance. I spent far more on the low mileage cars initially than the well maintained high mileage cars.
I drive my cars. Even drove my low mileage cars quite a bit, to the chagrin of other collectors. For me, I think it is unwise to drive a low mileage car that has been sitting for many years with out replacing every rubber seal, gasket, hose, non-hard part on the car. In one case this required pulling the entire drivetrain. I had peace of mind and was able to drive my cars without concern.
Unless you are buying a car you never plan on driving then I go for high mileage well maintained cars. Of course a regularly driven well maintained car with low miles (under 30k miles in 20 years) is best.
I drive my cars. Even drove my low mileage cars quite a bit, to the chagrin of other collectors. For me, I think it is unwise to drive a low mileage car that has been sitting for many years with out replacing every rubber seal, gasket, hose, non-hard part on the car. In one case this required pulling the entire drivetrain. I had peace of mind and was able to drive my cars without concern.
Unless you are buying a car you never plan on driving then I go for high mileage well maintained cars. Of course a regularly driven well maintained car with low miles (under 30k miles in 20 years) is best.
04-08-2010, 10:57 PM
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I think everyone here is missing the point. We all need a low mileage garage queen Sunday Driver 928 and a higher mileage, well maintained regular driver 928. At least that is the way I look at it. 
Unfortunately I can't afford to garage and maintain a second 928 so I settled for a Speed3.
So is this car in question sold yet? It looks like a keeper to me.
Unfortunately I can't afford to garage and maintain a second 928 so I settled for a Speed3.
So is this car in question sold yet? It looks like a keeper to me.
04-08-2010, 11:01 PM
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Not sold yet, by the time I figure this out it will be gone
04-09-2010, 12:08 AM
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Somebody buy it! I'll bet he'll take $15k for it.
04-09-2010, 07:24 PM
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I suspect this is a very low VIN car?
The center console air vent looks like a very early experimental one. Wonder which other unusual features it has?
The center console air vent looks like a very early experimental one. Wonder which other unusual features it has?
