linderpat

it's one of those air pumpin, stretched out v-dubs

hacker-pschorr

I did one in my 81, went out and bought a dedicated track car end never looked back

Most of our events allow passengers. I would never even think of taking someone out on the track at speed without safety gear for them.

James Bailey

Sorry about missing the 964 equals 89-94 911 but that really makes the spin comment SILLY. Few cars are easier to spin than a rear engine 911 except maybe a Corvair.....trailing throttle oversteer is a killer. I have gone for that ride a FEW TIMES WITH STUDENTS ! They are spinning before they get their foot on the brake If you have limited D E experience drive the automatic you have less things you must do when learning the line....D E is pretty safe but over the years I have seen a few cars get wrecked like $40,000 to a GT3 on the short course Streets of Willow. All you need to do is go off in the wrong place..... I did some 4 wheeling off turn 8 at Big Willow 100 mph into the desert so no harm no foul. Drooped a wheel off at the Streets into a hole and sheered off the lower ball joint bent the rim blew the tire bent the fender a bit....fixed it that night and drove the next day !

James-man

You quickly saw your destiny.

KLVA

Well..I guess I should chime in here...
Since I took my '88 928 S4 AT to the track and then last year TRADED IT for
a '91 964 (911) Carrera 2..to be used as a dedicated track car.

Honestly , the 964 is a much more appropriate DE car, due to the way that most local tracks are set up with an emphasis on negative camber surfaces and lots of turns and grade.
As stated before, the inputs on a rear engine 911 have a greater impact on the performance and a greater driving feel for the driver.

Also, if you are just starting out, the instructor is much more likely to understand a 911 than a 928...even though a large amount of instructors have told me that they had owned a 928 before or had always thought about one.

I traded my beloved '88 S4 for the 964 because the opportunity arose, the 964 had been totally rebuilt, brakes & suspension had been upgraded...really almost totally sorted for track events..almost like I got a track car ready to go..

Since then, I have put in Recaro SRD seats, harness bar, and harnesses...
Mostly just to keep me tighter in the seat and also for the safety aspects..

Kinda wished I had gotten a bolt in Roll bar...just an awful lot of money.

Not to worry Sharksters....I found a '91 GT late last year that we have been restoring for the street and SITM in June

I have driven both cars and I think the 964 is just more of a track platform for DE events...you really feel the transitions and driver inputs....

We did have an '89 GT run with us this last time at VIR...did not get the chance to ask him how it was.
Lastly, there is a lot you can do with a 964 to improve safety, performance and stability and be able to do it a little at a time...just sayin........

mj1pate

The 964 is a really polished touch on the original 911 coach design. Congratulations on the purchase. I'll offer a different perspective on the question. The 928 is a very "safe" car to take to limits, by comparison. My son managed to hideously wrap his mint '88 911 around several trees on a slick curve last year. If you're already experienced with the "character" of the 911, then which car you take to the track should depend on your mood. If you're new to 911 ownership, I would take the 911 to the track to push it and discover its behavior on skid pads and slalom. This would help knowledge and reliable confidence in different road conditions.

KLVA

C'mon ED..! You know it is actually an 'Oil Sucking, *** Draggin' Karmann Ghia'

GlenL

Think this has been stated but the 928 will be much easier to drive hard. It has amuch lower chance of leaving the track backwards.

The other factor is which car is worth less. Probably the 928, again.

You don't need to mod the car to do a PCA DE so no money invested in doing one and then the other.

kccampro

You'd have to be nuts to track a 928...

GlenL

And what's your point?

hacker-pschorr

...and I have the medical papers to prove it

kccampro

... that I'm nuts.

svp928

I, too, vote for the 928 for a beginner- it is much less likely to bite you, and like Jim says, the auto makes it easier to learn lines and braking without adding shifts to the program. Since you have both, do 928 first, and when you feel more prepared, the 964. Plus, sadly, the 928 is probly worth less if you have an accident...
fwiw

Steve

Ed Hughes

This is some of the point: there is more knowledge to be gained by most in taking a 911 to the track. You're there to improve your skills. If you can work the 911, any other car is easier.

svp928

Well, Ed , then we should all start out in an Indy car.... There is so much to learn at the beginning, it is best to keep it as simple as possible...one thing at a time, and as you improve and don't have to constantly think about every move you make, then add shifting, heel-and-toe, trail braking, etc..
Just my opinion, but if a simpler, less quirky car is available to a novice, they are more likely to succeed and enjoy it, and be inspired to move into a more complex car...with the benefit of some experience instead of going in cold.

Again, fwiw...