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Old 02-08-2010, 10:13 PM
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Default Okay. How do I time these cams (cam card info)

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Specific, "these-cams-specific" advice and comments from the general pop here are welcome. Telling me I should get different cams is NOT. Thank you.
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Note: Some info here is fudged - just the cam lobe dimensions and duration is probably correct.
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Just from looking at the specs, I would have to say you need different cams.











I had to be first on that, you know it was coming.


JK, what kind of question do you have?
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I am getting some much needed and very appreciated help on how to properly time these cams. They are ground from S3 cams, with more lift and more duration. I hope.

I was seeing if anyone here knew what they were looking at and had something to say.

I am installing the cams and need to know how to time them. I stuck with the S3 installation orientation, but after that I don't really know what to do with this specific operation.
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Basically they want you to make sure the cams are set to the specs on the card.

The first thing to do is to set up the biggest degree wheel you can get, then find TDC.
From there you verify the settings on the cam card.

Comp cams used to have a good section on degreeing cams.

But the most important thing is to find TDC, then it is simple matter matter of checking, and setting.

The checking at .050 is pretty standard.
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Also, I have been told the cams are reversed. Obviously the largest one is the intake. Maybe posting this isn't helping.
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Pretend that you have never seen this information....this is a "cam card on acid". I'll send you easy to understand (yeah, right) information in an email.
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Originally Posted by BrendanC
Also, I have been told the cams are reversed. Obviously the largest one is the intake. Maybe posting this isn't helping.
Not sure what you mean by either of those statements.
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uhhh....while being very cool....I have NO CLUE what most of that means....about the only thing I do understand is those are seriously high lift cams..especially the one labeled E1...but I'm guessing they got the intake and exhaust backwards
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I would crack open the WSM and verify the factory cam specs to see if the new ones are close to what you have had made
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Pretend that you have never seen this information....this is a "cam card on acid". I'll send you easy to understand (yeah, right) information in an email.

Thanks Greg. <-What he said.
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
I would crack open the WSM and verify the factory cam specs to see if the new ones are close to what you have had made
They are based on the S3 so they are obviously close. But I need to time these things properly and exactly, so I am trying to learn to get it "right the first time"
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Cam timing session on Rob's engine Friday at the shop.

Censored pictures allowed...don't want Carl to come up with any more "new" products, based on stuff I make...

By invitation from Rob only.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Censored pictures allowed...don't want Carl to come up with any more "new" products, based on stuff I make...
You could have fun with that. Include JB Weld somehow and then watch in amusement as your JB Weld instructions get copied and pasted into other "new products"!

Brendan, if they do invite you, make time for it and bring presents. That's definately something worth learning. I'm going to 'degree' cams later today too. I'm so excited!
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32VrManual Timing Instructions per Porken

Porken has his timing tools and instructions.


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