mj1pate

The accelerated thawing of the severe mid-atlantic snow storm from weeks ago made for black ice on our roads during an otherwise sunny morning, and subsequently I was rear ended on my driver's rear fender. The pictures should follow.

I am going to need:
1) rear quarter panel, in a state of no rust and good condition
2) the fender liner. The liner area directly under under the metal damage is bent.
3) the rear facia. As can be seen, the rear facia is also slightly bent at its edge and I'm sure irreparable, and if momentarily reparable, then will crack over time.
4) the rear facia piping
5) the rear side marker lamp housing
6) Gosh...and the window has to be removed during the quarter panel replacement. Are the gaskets available? reusable?

OK....please if you have parts, send me a message with your price.

Thanks

karl ruiter

I would think it would be easier and a lot less invasive to the car as a whole to bring that fender back out rather than replace it. You have to trade off the crime of having some bondo in there v.s. the crime of pulling apart a big part of the car, cutting the fender off, and welding a new one on, etc. Up to you, of course.

pcar928fan

Yea, I don't think you want to try and replace that rear Q panel...it is not that bad. A good body guy and fix that! Cutting a rear fender off a 928 is NOT for the faint of heart!

Sorry about the accident! Glad no one was hurt!

Lizard928

That is repairable.
The rear facia will go right back to its orignonal shape and all body shops should be able to get the piping for you. If the rear window has to come out the seal is reusable.

M. Requin

Had a similar experience. Take a look at my posts to this thread (actually, take a look at the whole thread) https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-please-4.html
That damage is probably easier to fix than it looks, and you are lucky it is not on the passenger's (tank filler) side. The bumper cover will be no problem at all, especially if you remove it right now. And a good panel beater can save that rear quarter. Any advice/opinion/feedback I can offer. please ask!

James Bailey

Way better to fix that one than welding on a 1/4 or partial 1/4 since the welding leaves un-galvanized metal which is prone to corrode. That should pound back out pretty easily might need some heat shrinking to get the shape you need a real bodyman that knows how to move metal....not just weld on a new part.

lrpman

I have a whole car BUT you do not want to cut and splice that part. Get a GOOD body man and you will be fine.

mj1pate

Regarding the rear facia; I already have spider webbing in the facia as a result of little impact dimples and these have begun growing with time. They haven't become grossly large, but the implication is that once this starts with the plastic facia, that a repair is only momentary. Is this truly the case? Do small, damage related imperfections in the facia lead to eventual facia replacement? Is there a means of cosmetically repairing these kinds of imperfections?

Lizard928

the cracking you see is only the paint. When the paint and primer are stripped and redone properly it will not return.

hagen454

PM sent.

mj1pate

and one last thing.....a good general body shop is looking for a shop guide that will correctly identify the fair hours estimate to do the repairs, so that he can present a qualified estimate to the other parties insurance company. I don't see such a guide n the Morehouse CDs and the shop is having a hard time finding the fair estimate guide going back to 86. Any suggestions to a source?

Imo000

You mean the body shop that you have the car at, can't give you and estimate and asking you to find out the hours?

lrpman

I would give restoration shop a call that worked on 928's you have the same problem as we did with the 1971 Rolls when it got backed into. I contacted a restoration shop to place a value on the car before and after repairs AND what they would charge to make the car proper again.
You have a problem that the average insurance company will just total a car based on it's age and needs to be taught about a collector car which these are no matter what we do to them.

mj1pate

Imre, the problem that they need to come up with a "fair estimate" for the labor repair that the insurance company can agree with without unnecessary arguing. Example, the labor cost to repair a front bumper on a 2009 Toyota Tundra is pretty much fixed and all shops should agree on the same labor amount. He also doesn't want to get unnecessarily screwed by the labor amount that the insurance company puts in front of him. The work is pretty simple, he just needs the reference for fair labor costs to do this work on a 928.

Imo000

I understand but , out of everyone in the world, why is HE asking YOU to come up with the estimate? Any competant shop should have the tools or references to get this. This is a very minor repair, how come he can't estimate it from his own experience? The only thing he might use new is the piping and the marker light, the rest is repair.