Richter12x2

Yeah, they said they couldn't get an accurate o2 reading. I'm not sure why the run started so high, but I'm wondering if it kept wanting to change down gears because of the slipping transmission. I really need to get the Blink'r on it and see what I can get out of it, because it still feels like I'm leaving power on the table.

Mike Frye

I just put the latest chips in today and I'll tell you it made my shifting and getting into gear smoother. It was a very clear difference and nice and smooth.

These chips may cause a problem though, I had a guy cut me off and I just laid into the loud pedal and I was around him in a shot. In no time he was far back in my rearview. This may not work for me. I'm not an aggressive driver but I LOVE to lean on it in this car 'cause it's so much FUN!

Ken, thanks. The new chips are a noticeable improvement over the previous ones and those were amazing. What a smooth and predictable feel with so much power just waiting for me to tap into it. Very cool!

Darklands

I want the arrival of my new chips badly! ;-)
The new 80 mm trottlebody from the S 2 is 13,5% larger than the 75mm S 3 TB.I need time for the wrenchjob.
Mike,your car has stock 4 HP more,i need a little bit help for a better dynorun than your car! ;-)

Mike Frye

Good luck buddy. Thanks to Ken my car is a freakin' monster now. I can't wait to get back to the dyno with this thing. GAME ON!

Don Carter

I would have expected higher numbers too. My 86.5 did 264 RWHP over the summer with nothing but RMB and ebay chips. We started at 3k.

JHowell37

I just got the /36 chips the other day and have already installed them. It's definitely more responsive, especially at lower speeds. What is most noticeable is how smooth everything seems.

PorKen

Finally dyno'ed my own '85 5-speed today.

124K miles, pretty close to stock, with a rebuilt MAF, new Temp II, new TB w/PKsn'r.
No intake refresh, original injectors, stock crank vent, factory cam timing, etc. 4K+ miles on stock air filter and sparkplugs.

Mods are: MAF screen delete, airpump delete, belt driven fan delete, debaffled pumkin, X-pipe, WR5DC+, S4 FPR, and chips.

Chevron 'Plus' 89 octane (R+M)/2



(Uncorrected 292 hp/295 tq.)

svp928

Dang, Ken..I was hoping to see bigger number. I figured at least 500...
Seriously, I just got to drive the new chips the other day, and the car is smoother and has great response compared to how it was stock, and its a little better than your last generation. So, Thanks!
It does seem to me that an X with these chips would make more than that, but still- good #'s for an 85..

Funny, the new rev limit makes me want 7000 rpm- it feels like its still pulling..

PorKen

I expected over 300, but I was happy to see that the fueling and the dyno runs were super consistent.

v2.0 of the EZF'r chip has a new superhot airbox retard, and I think it was getting close to that limit on the dyno. Coolant temp was just below the 3/4 mark. (I should have disconnected the airbox temp sensor to disable the extra retard.)

I'll try again after an intake refresh, with rebuilt injectors, sync the cams perfectly, etc. (Maybe a little cam retard, too.)


Mostly I wanted to get the closest to what can be expected with just an afternoon of bolt-ons on a stock engine.

Landseer

I've ordered my first set within the last hour.

Question: I specified stock injectors with 87 FPR. How much will I leave on the table by not shifting to the Ford 24Lb injectors?

Shane

Very nice Ken!!

Exactly what I wanted to see on a stock setup with just the standard bolt ons.

JHowell37

You already have 24lb injectors. So the difference you're looking at would be 24lb injectors that are 25 years old, versus ones that are brand new. The newer ones do have the 4 hole pintle, and there might be a slightly noticeable boost in performance. But it's a similar improvement that one would see when upgrading to stainless brake lines. Of course it's an improvement when you're getting rid of 25 year old parts and putting in something new. The real comparison would be if you had new original parts, versus new upgraded parts. At that point the difference probably wouldn't be as noticeable.

PorKen

I was at a fuel injector service place today, watching as freshly cleaned stock injectors were compared to new Ford 24# at 36 and 55 psi. They flowed at nearly identical rates.

The Fords have a wider cone with a finer mist. At 36 psi, the stock injectors come out in a pretty tight stream, wider at 55.

The Fords may fuel a bit more consistently, but serviced stock injectors are pretty good.


Warning: some of the 'new' Fords I bought off eBay need cleaning even before they have been installed! They had spray problems. I'd recommend getting any set of injectors flow tested before use, even new ones. (I've read this before but said to myself 'it won't happen to me'. )

Richter12x2

I've rebuilt these injectors myself with a spare fuel pump and a 9v battery to key them off. They use the regular ford injector rebuild kits you can get off of eBay, but there's no way to measure flow. Better idea is just to suck it up and send them off to Witchhunter or someone. At $15 per, it's worth not accidentally spraying B12 Chemtool all over your socks. Surprising how what doesn't bother your fingers much burns like crazy on your ankles.

Mike Frye

Ken,

That's great. Especially since you haven't done anything but bolt-ons. What a great combo: x-pipe, chips and higher FPR.

I'm hoping to get over 300 at the wheels out of my '85 this year somehow. Ooh! The tax return should be here soon...



Isn't a flow test just turning an injector on and letting it flow into a beaker (or glass?) for a specified amount of time? If you could figure out a way to turn the power on and off for exactly the same amount of time I think you could flow test your own, no?

Ken, I noticed that Blue Oval Industries (where I got my Ford 24.lb 4 holes) also sells a set of 8 flow matched injectors now for just a little more.



PS- Ken, I gotta say, those headlights look like you've fitted your shark with frickin' lasers.