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Old 11-25-2009, 12:20 AM
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There is also something to say for having a detector that can not detected and is for the most part hidden, if you want that, then the V1 is off the list.

You also have to ask yourself how much does a ticket cost, even if you win the court case?
Old 11-25-2009, 12:24 AM
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What is the point of that, unless you live in the 2 places in the country that they are illegal?
Old 11-25-2009, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by blown 87
Have you ever used a modern GPS radar detector?
If not, you do not know what a huge improvement they are.
Nope. And I probably won't have the opportunity unless I go buy one. No one I know uses one.

I have never said one bad word about any detector I have not personally used - I'm just trying to take arms against the outrageous slings and arrows being hurled at the V1.
Old 11-25-2009, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by m73m95
What is the point of that, unless you live in the 2 places in the country that they are illegal?
One of my good friends is a shift Sergeant on the local SO, he told me most cops are not going to go easy on anybody that runs a radar detector.
He is the reason I went with a remote unit, just to keep it out of sight.
Old 11-25-2009, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by blown 87

if you can handle the detector going off every time it sees a door opener, go with the V1, if not go with the IX.


Greg Nettles.
I agree with a bunch of what you said in your post, but I find this to be utterly false. Just my experience though, YMMV.
Old 11-25-2009, 10:31 AM
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I have both a V1 and a Passport 8500 x50.. I use both between 2 cars. Both work well and do the job. The V1 falses - a lot more - even with X-off.

Even with that I prefer the features & displays of the V1 - the passport is much less obtrusive - but tells you less. I still use both - but the V1 is in my GTS. My wife much prefers the passport - she has no use for, or interest in, the extra displays - cares not what band it is - she just slows down when it beeps - works for her. I have to do a bit more interpretation but have the data to do it.

Yes I do have to filter out some common falses... for me this works better...

For those who say one is so much better than another because of "factor Y" - understand you are only saying its better "for you" and what you want/like.

We don't like any religious discussions on the technical boards - - - - but thats essentially what this is.

Let folks understand the operational differences and buy according to their interests. There is no "right" answer for all...

And yes I do supplement the V1 with a Blinder M25 for laser - few detectors will help you much with laser but there are other options...

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Old 11-25-2009, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SeanR
I agree with a bunch of what you said in your post, but I find this to be utterly false. Just my experience though, YMMV.
If your V1 is not going off when it sees a signal, then there is a problem.
They can call it logic mode or what ever they want, but what they are really doing is turning down the sensitivity to cut out the false alerts.

What I am trying to say is I know there are places that your V1 goes off every time you drive by, right?
With a GPS unit it locks that one signal and only that one signal out.
I also can set mine to auto and it will not alert to anything if I am going under a set speed, 25 MPH I think.
It is my personal view that blocking signals by location is better than turning down the sensitivity.

Here is another way to look at it.
So lets say you are used to it going off at location X every day, soon you (I will any way) get to the point that your mind says, no need to look, it always goes off here.
But this day you are speeding and there is a LEO there, you may end up with a ticket.
Getting desensitized to alerts is the cardinal sin of detectors.

With a GPS detector it will not go off every time you go past, but on the day the LEO is running radar there it will.
For me that is a huge advantage.

It showed me this morning how important that is, I go by a big Post office on my way to work every day and it always gets a alert on K band which the unit filters out, but this morning it goes off beeping like hell, sure enough there are two cops sitting in the parking lot, one facing the roadway running K.
That would have been a easy one to miss right there.

Sean, I am not trying to say that one is better for everybody, detectors are different as are people, and the V1 is a good detector.
Old 11-25-2009, 01:58 PM
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I think the differing opinions come from folks in different operating environments.

Where I live, there are relatively few false signals, and the cops appear to uniformly use Ka band. I can program a detector to look aggressively for Ka sources, ignore X band, and pretty much the only thing it will beep on is an active speed trap and/or some radar controlled intersection.

My tactic is to drop to legal speed and manuevering no matter if the radar gun is ahead, to the side, or at the rear - I don't even wanna be speeding when the cop is looking at the other direction on the highway.

In contrast, I'd driven around the east coast at one point with a detector, and lordy the thing would not shut up - plus every town's cops had different gear. Sorting out the real signals from the false stuff would have made directional arrows mighty handy...

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Originally Posted by blown 87
They can call it logic mode or what ever they want, but what they are really doing is turning down the sensitivity to cut out the false alerts.
I'm sorry, Greg, but this is a ridiculous assertion to post. Unless you tell me that you were an engineer for Valentine at one point (and I'll go all-in against that possibility, considering your anti-V1 ranting), YOU DON'T KNOW what the V1 is doing in any of its 3 or 4 operating modes.

The V1 is pretty sophisticated - it can positively identify "junky" radar detectors that emit a high radar signature that would otherwise set off the detector. That requires a LOT more processing and programming than you give it credit for.

For the V1 fans out there... I always thought that Valentine should give out bumper stickers that read:

My radar detector thinks your
radar detector is a piece of JUNK!
Valentine 1
Old 11-25-2009, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VehiGAZ
I'm sorry, Greg, but this is a ridiculous assertion to post. Unless you tell me that you were an engineer for Valentine at one point (and I'll go all-in against that possibility, considering your anti-V1 ranting), YOU DON'T KNOW what the V1 is doing in any of its 3 or 4 operating modes.

The V1 is pretty sophisticated - it can positively identify "junky" radar detectors that emit a high radar signature that would otherwise set off the detector. That requires a LOT more processing and programming than you give it credit for.

For the V1 fans out there... I always thought that Valentine should give out bumper stickers that read:

My radar detector thinks your
radar detector is a piece of JUNK!
Valentine 1
Test the range for yourself on different settings and get back to me.

I am just a simple country boy, that is all i am and all i will ever be, not a engineer by any stretch.

Find me one place where I said the V1 is junk, on any forum, I have not ranted against it, you however have gone on and on about a detector that you have NEVER USED.

Do you really want to drag this talk down to that level?

BTW, I had a engineer that had worked at Cincinati Microwave (sp) tell me last week that no other detector could detect a signal from the rear because it did not have a rear facing antenna, so again, I am not a engineer.
Old 11-25-2009, 11:43 PM
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Well, personally I think this has been a great topic. I'm not sure which model I'm going to go with; BUT, next year at 3rd Coast, Herman's going down!
Old 11-25-2009, 11:48 PM
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I am done with this, if you want at V1, buy it, use it, it is a good detector, it is just not for me.

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