dprantl

Of course that would not hold up in court, you and I know that. But I have heard that reasoning before and the vast majority of people that are pulled over that don't understand this think fighting the ticket would be pointless. It is about what the cop can get away with. The goal is to take your money in the easiest and cheapest way possible.

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

heinrich

On a social level I have always believed it to be a good thing when the officer sees your brake lights ... Seeing the officer and braking shows a level of respect. Not that I think that matters at all. Not braking, even when there's a cop, and you're speeding?? DOes that show disrespect, idiocy, or total oblivion as in "Dude pass the bong"?

heinrich

On this note ... I had a guy in a plain old small car pace me once. He pulled me over and said that others had complained of someone driving at excessive speeds and weaving. His next comment was too cool:

"But I've been following you and while you were over the limit, you did slow down where the limit dropped, and your driving has been just fine".

RKD in OKC

I think that is why the pursuit car ended up following me for 50 miles at speeds over 130, never pulled me over, just gave a big grin and a thumbs up when I finally exited the highway.

VehiGAZ

OK, enough of all this V1 hatin'... the V1 can be programmed by the user in about 10 seconds to ignore X band alerts, and that will reduce the false alarms by about 90%.

If you have a V1, TRY IT.

If you are a hater and have not used a V1 with X band alerts blocked, quit yo' hatin' and try it.

VehiGAZ

Not correct. There are several programming options for auto-mute on the V1.

heinrich

Sorry Bubba ...10% of the V1's cackling is still 200% of all other detectors' good alerts. I have NEVER had a cop aim at me and not been alerted... and get very few noise. It would drive me insane, but some people can live with Fran Drescher

VehiGAZ

Dude, Fran Drescher was HOT!!!

The Valentine-vs-Passport battle annoys me sooooo much! (More than Fran Drescher's voice!) It's a worse forum topic than politics or religion. I realized this when I once read a post (another site) claiming that the V1 was inferior because its metal case could cause more serious injuries during an accident!! WTF is that?!?! If you want to say that the V1 is 15-year-old technology, you may as well just post "nanny-nanny boo-boo!"

In the last test I read, it had the longest detection range, and that was just slightly further than the second-place-in-range Passport 9500. If you want a detector that just tells you when there is a cop in the area - reliably and with few false alarms, even at the expense of warning distance, great. I just want a detector that gives me more information about where the cop might be, and I want it as early as possible, so I can interpret the signals and situation.

The fact is that the Valentine and Passport (are they still Cincinnati Microwave?) offerings are really, really frigging close in real-world detection performance, but they each offer different features and functions. Some people will favor one, others the other, and whoever can't get their head around that reality needs to grow up a little, or maybe a lot. We're not cheering for rival sports teams here - we're trying to compare and contrast, usefully and constructively.

Vilhuer

In those places where detectors are illegal and cops use detector detectors there is only one option, Bel STi Driver.

RKD in OKC

"nanny nanny boo boo" = "just drive the speed limit and you don't need no detector"

Since I started driving Porsches (12 years ago) I've been pulled over 16 times now. Of those 16 times only once did I even have the radar detector in the car and on. That time the officer said saw the cord hanging and pulled me over to ask how far my detector went off. I told him about 3 miles. He said, "Well, I'm not going to catch *** holes like you then am I..." He turn, got in his car and drove off.

Oh, and out of all those times being pulled over I only got 1 ticket. It was in my 944 Turbo with a really loud exhaust, he said he heard my car from three blocks away and gave me a ticket for freaking 38 in a 35. I put a quieter muffler on within 3 days.

blown 87

Have you ever used a modern GPS radar detector?
If not, you do not know what a huge improvement they are.

SharkSkin

Since the V1 is upgradeable, tests that don't mention what version is being used are worse than worthless IMHO, they are dishonest. Is it running 10 year old software or up-to-date software? It's easy for someone to take a very old V1 that has never been upgraded and show that it is inferior to the latest brand X. Mine is pretty up-to-date and I get very few false alarms in logic mode, as far as I can tell I have never had a false on Ka which is mostly what's used on Ca highways.

6mil928

Well the V1 I got off ebay is broke as best I can tell. I get no warnings except for excellent Ka band. It will be going in to the shop shortly. And yes I did check the programming. When I tried to go back in to the programming it doesn't let me now. It might have broke when it fell off my window so many times

NoVector

I'm with Bill--I was passed by Herman at 135 that day too; I need an Imminent Ticket Warning Device. The 9500CI at $1,600 puts it out of my range. But, I see the 9500IX is about $500 at Best Buy which is comparable to a V1. So of those two, do you feel the 9500IX is better than a V1?

Thanks / Bruce

blown 87

On interstates that I do not normally drive, I will give the V1 a slight edge over the IX, but if it is to be a daily use detector in a urban setting, then the IX all the way.
Both will go off every time they see a source, for the most part.

You can look at the tests from GOL, or Radar Roy, most wont make a difference of a hundred foot either way, and it swings back and forth depending on gun and angle.
That is the little **** that gets the fan boys of either group carrying signs saying mine is better.

It really comes down to a persons personality type and the area you drive, if you can handle the detector going off every time it sees a door opener, go with the V1, if not go with the IX.

If you want the the best of both worlds get a CI, it is IMHO far better than a V1 for everyday use due to how quite it is.

I started with a Cobra many years ago, they are crap, they leak so much they set off other detectors, the only detector that is worse than a Cobra is anything from Rocky Mountain Radar.

I had a V1 before I got the 9500IX, and for me I prefer it over the V1, but the CI is far ahead of either.

One thing to keep in mind, the only thing the IX and the CI share is the name "Escort" and the GPS tech, other than that there are no parts that are the same, different feed horn, circuitry, firmware, etc.
Think of the CI as a Belltronics STI-r with Escort GPS goodies.

PS, I am running a CI in my 928, and as $$ allows I will install a four head LI and for long trips on the interstate I will run the V1 also, but it will stay on mute for the most part.

I am not knocking the V1, just the folks that say mine is better when they have not spent time with with the ones they are saying are crap that they have not used.

Greg Nettles.