The new Radar Detector
11-19-2009, 05:29 PM
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Jason, most of us here have ours on Full Logic mode and it's quiet most of the time. I will get the occational false warning around shopping malls, but that's about it. After our trip to SITM, a few of the guys sent their V-1's back to get the lastest upgrade. Mine was catching bogies miles before theirs was.
And yes, the hit counter is a great thing to have.
And yes, the hit counter is a great thing to have.
11-19-2009, 05:36 PM
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Exactly.
That's approximately what one must do coming into Turn 1 at Road America in a stock-block 928 prior to turn-in. Without consulting my data-logger, I'm guess-timating it takes 2 to 3 seconds of thresh-hold braking to go from 140 to 70.
Now if you're hit with laser of course, it is all over. However, if it's radar shot at someone else, hauling your car down to legal-speed in 2 to 3 seconds gives you a pretty decent chance of escaping unscathed. Bonus is that the radar detector just paid for itself many times over from the would-be costs of fines and increased insurance in the future.
Now if you're hit with laser of course, it is all over. However, if it's radar shot at someone else, hauling your car down to legal-speed in 2 to 3 seconds gives you a pretty decent chance of escaping unscathed. Bonus is that the radar detector just paid for itself many times over from the would-be costs of fines and increased insurance in the future.
11-19-2009, 05:42 PM
#49
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This is exaclty the point. VERY inexpensive detectors do the exact same job as the V1 .. it's really simple. Detect any sort of signal, make a racket. And add arrows.
Arrows are the only thing the V1 adds over a $20 detector. Literally does the same level of work. The REAL value in my Escort series (and therefore Bel these days) is that they exclude a lot more so that if I DO get a signal I nail the brakes because chances are it is a real signal.
I was on a long trip with other 928 fans years ago ... the V1 went off really slightly and it was ignored because we were out in the desert and it was feint. It turns out it was a cop against a hill behind us with laser. He got us. On another detector, if you had got a signal, you would have nailed the brakes immediately.
The issue with V1 is it goes off all the damn time
Anf for the record I have never once had a laser ticket where I heeded the warning. WHen I get a laser warning I brake ... and drive right by. Has happened many times.
Arrows are the only thing the V1 adds over a $20 detector. Literally does the same level of work. The REAL value in my Escort series (and therefore Bel these days) is that they exclude a lot more so that if I DO get a signal I nail the brakes because chances are it is a real signal.
I was on a long trip with other 928 fans years ago ... the V1 went off really slightly and it was ignored because we were out in the desert and it was feint. It turns out it was a cop against a hill behind us with laser. He got us. On another detector, if you had got a signal, you would have nailed the brakes immediately.
The issue with V1 is it goes off all the damn time
Anf for the record I have never once had a laser ticket where I heeded the warning. WHen I get a laser warning I brake ... and drive right by. Has happened many times.
11-19-2009, 06:36 PM
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Jason,
It seems to me that Sheriff depts and smaller muni LEO's use K ( maybe an older technology for which they don't have all the necessary money to upgrade?) TxDPS LEO seem to be exclusively Ka along with larger muni LEOs. Laser is pretty much exclusively used in town and X has basically been relegated to building alarm systems and door openers.
Just my observations.
It seems to me that Sheriff depts and smaller muni LEO's use K ( maybe an older technology for which they don't have all the necessary money to upgrade?) TxDPS LEO seem to be exclusively Ka along with larger muni LEOs. Laser is pretty much exclusively used in town and X has basically been relegated to building alarm systems and door openers.
Just my observations.
11-19-2009, 07:00 PM
#51
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This is exaclty the point. VERY inexpensive detectors do the exact same job as the V1 .. it's really simple. Detect any sort of signal, make a racket. And add arrows.
Arrows are the only thing the V1 adds over a $20 detector. Literally does the same level of work. The REAL value in my Escort series (and therefore Bel these days) is that they exclude a lot more so that if I DO get a signal I nail the brakes because chances are it is a real signal.
I was on a long trip with other 928 fans years ago ... the V1 went off really slightly and it was ignored because we were out in the desert and it was feint. It turns out it was a cop against a hill behind us with laser. He got us. On another detector, if you had got a signal, you would have nailed the brakes immediately.
The issue with V1 is it goes off all the damn time
Anf for the record I have never once had a laser ticket where I heeded the warning. WHen I get a laser warning I brake ... and drive right by. Has happened many times.
Arrows are the only thing the V1 adds over a $20 detector. Literally does the same level of work. The REAL value in my Escort series (and therefore Bel these days) is that they exclude a lot more so that if I DO get a signal I nail the brakes because chances are it is a real signal.
I was on a long trip with other 928 fans years ago ... the V1 went off really slightly and it was ignored because we were out in the desert and it was feint. It turns out it was a cop against a hill behind us with laser. He got us. On another detector, if you had got a signal, you would have nailed the brakes immediately.
The issue with V1 is it goes off all the damn time
Anf for the record I have never once had a laser ticket where I heeded the warning. WHen I get a laser warning I brake ... and drive right by. Has happened many times.
I wouldn't blame the V1 for you not reading it correctly.
I would rather a detector show me every signal out there, and let me determine if its a threat or not.
You got a signal, chose to ignore it, and got a ticket ...... what did the V1 do wrong?
11-19-2009, 07:03 PM
#52
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I think we can add radar detectors to the list....
Politics, religion, engine oil, suspension setup, and now radar detectors are all never ending arguments! lol
Politics, religion, engine oil, suspension setup, and now radar detectors are all never ending arguments! lol
11-19-2009, 07:03 PM
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Have a Bel995 and just bought a valentine. The Bel is an excellent detector. I love the Valentine 's direction arrows and Bogey counter. Once you use them you won't go back to a detector without them. one question though for the other Valentine owners. Do you get almost no "K" hits as compared to other detectors? My Valentine may never go off due to "K". It doesn't even go off in places my Bel goes off with "K". Yes "K" is enabled and I'm running in "A".
I have both a Bel RX65 and a V1. I believe both are about equal in detections. My Bel can show signal count, so like the V1, I know if there is more than one radar source. I do like the arrows on the V1, even thought it does catch bounces in built up areas and try to tell you there are more sources than are really present. But for me the biggest problem with the V1 is no Auto Mute. The Bel will mute after so many seconds, and resume normal volume if a second source is detected.
11-19-2009, 07:47 PM
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Trapster does show red-light and speed cameras, but it is not helpful for things that move.
11-19-2009, 09:00 PM
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Of course, not a good idea on a slick road and it takes you longer to slow down
11-19-2009, 10:16 PM
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Use the e-brake--no brake lights. I had a cop scratching his head one time with this trick. He said he originally clocked me at 85 but it didn't settle until 65, "for some reason". I was in a 55 zone so he wrote me a ticket for 9 over.
Of course, not a good idea on a slick road and it takes you longer to slow down
Of course, not a good idea on a slick road and it takes you longer to slow down
Whenever I spot a police-run revenue raiser, I brake - doesn't matter if I am speeding or not. By making it a conditioned response, I don't waste time thinking about whether I need to slow down or not.
Once I have commenced braking, I check my speed - if I am above the arbitrarily set limit, I brake harder; if I am below it I accelerate back to the limit.
What's the police officer going to do, ticket you for "ceasing to exceed the speed limit"?
One caveat: in heavy traffic, it is entirely possible for a Porsche (of almost any type) to exceed the braking capability of the car behind - don't inadvertently "brake-test" the guy behind you.
11-19-2009, 10:44 PM
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I'm pretty sure mines bad. I tried to get back in to the programing tonight and it doesn't go in to programing anymore. I'm also hearing something rattling inside it. It may have broke when it kept falling off my windshield and crashing into my console and floor. Guess it's going to have to be sent in to Valentine for repair. How's the repair time turn around on these?
11-19-2009, 10:58 PM
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Cruizing 160 down a Sunday afternoon deserted turnpike. There weren't even any cars visible as far as I could see either in front on behind. The V1 goes off strong like and instant on. I immediately lift, but don't hit the brakes. A habit to keep from drawing attention to myself. The V1 alert almost immediately stopped. As I am slowing towards the speed limit and reach about 110 the V1 comes back on pointing to the front. I continue to coast down to the speed limit and look in vain for the source. No source ever spotted. Once I had passed the source and the V1 stopped beeping I cranked it back up and continued my 500 mile trip averaging 100 mph including a stop for food and gas.
I imagine the officer hitting me with instant on and upon seeing 160 thought "No Way" and cycled the power on the unit then hit me again. That was about the time difference between the hits. By then I had slowed considerably and he must have decided I wasn't endangering anyone since there was zero traffic for miles and miles. Or maybe fiigured I was slowing down and that was good enough.
The statute of limitations is 7 years, right?
I imagine the officer hitting me with instant on and upon seeing 160 thought "No Way" and cycled the power on the unit then hit me again. That was about the time difference between the hits. By then I had slowed considerably and he must have decided I wasn't endangering anyone since there was zero traffic for miles and miles. Or maybe fiigured I was slowing down and that was good enough.
The statute of limitations is 7 years, right?