The new Radar Detector
#16
Rennlist Member
If....Big If..the car in front of you is being shot with a laser, then the V1 will pick it up and you will have time to slow down. BUT, if you are the lead dog (which, in a 928, I would presume most of us are) then any warning at all is just an indication that you are about to get a ticket. (unless you have a laser jammer)
I have been saved by the arrows numerous times when the law has been working in multiples ( 2 or 3 cars) and I go past one at legal and am ready to crank it up a notch and realize there is another just ahead also.
I think the main thing is to PAY ATTENTION. I got a real nice paper invitation from a local lawman after my V1 was alerting me but I was too busy watching the cool fighter jets taking off overhead and not paying attention to the V1.
I have been saved by the arrows numerous times when the law has been working in multiples ( 2 or 3 cars) and I go past one at legal and am ready to crank it up a notch and realize there is another just ahead also.
I think the main thing is to PAY ATTENTION. I got a real nice paper invitation from a local lawman after my V1 was alerting me but I was too busy watching the cool fighter jets taking off overhead and not paying attention to the V1.
#17
Drifting
I have been installing the Bel RX75 plus quite a bit lately, they are a laser "blocking" system (blocker since jamming is not legal...) that is pretty good. I still use a V1, swear by them as they have saved me untold riches destined for the city, county, state. Every customer that I have set one up for loves it.
http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de...ardetector.cfm
Reading the tests on the Bel it seems to "distract" the laser pretty well. If V1 doesn't start playing catch-up soon I may have to switch. The only big problem I can see with the Bel is that it is impossible to switch in between vehicles without major surgery. I can toss the V1 into a rental in seconds.
http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de...ardetector.cfm
Reading the tests on the Bel it seems to "distract" the laser pretty well. If V1 doesn't start playing catch-up soon I may have to switch. The only big problem I can see with the Bel is that it is impossible to switch in between vehicles without major surgery. I can toss the V1 into a rental in seconds.
Last edited by Ketchmi; 11-19-2009 at 02:55 PM.
#18
Rest in Peace
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bird lover in Sharpsburg
Posts: 9,903
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
I have been installing the Bel RX75 plus quite a bit lately, they are a radar "blocking" system (blocker since jamming is not legal...) that is pretty good. I still use a V1, swear by them as they have saved me untold riches destined for the city, county, state. Every customer that I have set one up for loves it.
http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de...ardetector.cfm
Reading the tests on the Bel it seems to "distract" the laser pretty well. If V1 doesn't start playing catch-up soon I may have to switch. The only big problem I can see with the Bel is that it is impossible to switch in between vehicles without major surgery. I can toss the V1 into a rental in seconds.
http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de...ardetector.cfm
Reading the tests on the Bel it seems to "distract" the laser pretty well. If V1 doesn't start playing catch-up soon I may have to switch. The only big problem I can see with the Bel is that it is impossible to switch in between vehicles without major surgery. I can toss the V1 into a rental in seconds.
They are not going to do any thing to a radar signal.
That's approximately what one must do coming into Turn 1 at Road America in a stock-block 928 prior to turn-in. Without consulting my data-logger, I'm guess-timating it takes 2 to 3 seconds of thresh-hold braking to go from 140 to 70.
Now if you're hit with laser of course, it is all over. However, if it's radar shot at someone else, hauling your car down to legal-speed in 2 to 3 seconds gives you a pretty decent chance of escaping unscathed. Bonus is that the radar detector just paid for itself many times over from the would-be costs of fines and increased insurance in the future.
Now if you're hit with laser of course, it is all over. However, if it's radar shot at someone else, hauling your car down to legal-speed in 2 to 3 seconds gives you a pretty decent chance of escaping unscathed. Bonus is that the radar detector just paid for itself many times over from the would-be costs of fines and increased insurance in the future.
See post number 7.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation here about radar detectors and laser jammers.
For all you V1 lovers, test a modern GPS remote unit against a V1 in actual driving, then get aback to us.
I have and all I can say is that the V1 was a great detector 15 years ago, but time marches on.
The seemingly constant alarms of a V1 in highway mode will desensitize most people after a period of time, and that is a cardinal sin of using a radar detector.
One other thing, I have seen some folks reference test results from Craig Peterson, just do some checking up on him and decide for yourself.
IMHO, the current king of the hill is the Escort 9500CI and a four head Laser Interceptor.
After over a year with the CI, no way am I going to go back to the V1.
#19
Rest in Peace
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bird lover in Sharpsburg
Posts: 9,903
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
I have been installing the Bel RX75 plus quite a bit lately, they are a radar "blocking" system (blocker since jamming is not legal...) that is pretty good. I still use a V1, swear by them as they have saved me untold riches destined for the city, county, state. Every customer that I have set one up for loves it.
http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de...ardetector.cfm
Reading the tests on the Bel it seems to "distract" the laser pretty well. If V1 doesn't start playing catch-up soon I may have to switch. The only big problem I can see with the Bel is that it is impossible to switch in between vehicles without major surgery. I can toss the V1 into a rental in seconds.
http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de...ardetector.cfm
Reading the tests on the Bel it seems to "distract" the laser pretty well. If V1 doesn't start playing catch-up soon I may have to switch. The only big problem I can see with the Bel is that it is impossible to switch in between vehicles without major surgery. I can toss the V1 into a rental in seconds.
Bellscort holds over 85% of the current patents for radar detectors right now, so unless Mike can come up with something really great, the V1 is going to continue to be less of a choice to folks that actually test detectors.
Kind of makes a person wonder why the 9500IX and the 9500CI both have arrows, but are not being used for radar threat direction at this time.
That will just be a download away once the patent runs out.
Greg Nettles
PS, I am trying to get a 9500CI installed in my 928 before the weekend and hope to have a four head LI installed by January.
There also are folks out there that have radar jammers, but unless you know some one really well you are not going to be able to get one.
And no, I do not have one and do not know where to get one.
#20
Nordschleife Master
My wife just got pulled over some months ago in CT for 93 at 55. The cop was all red faced, but the fine was like $250 or something.
Before that, she's been pulled over six times for six warnings and zero tickets in MA. Five of them for speeding, and one for speeding a one way street the wrong way.
Perhaps the law is not the same for all.
#21
Rest in Peace
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bird lover in Sharpsburg
Posts: 9,903
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
This one shows about what I got from testing the V1 and the 9500CI.
My testing left no doubt in my mind as to which detector I was going to run.
The V1 is a good detector, in fact it is the best 400$ detector you can buy, but once you get out of the mid range detectors and into the high end stuff it does not perform as well as some of the others.
#22
Race Car
Wow... if I was going to buy and install one of these things that costs over $1,000 it would have to come with a guarantee that they would pay any tickets and insurance hikes I got. Does any company do this?
Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft
Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft
#24
Nordschleife Master
So in the video above, the V1 showed that you passed (with the arrows) the LEO and were moving away from it. The other detector kept the same tone, and warning..... IF there had been another LEO a few blocks up, then the V1 would have showed 2 arrows, one ahead and one behind, and showed it was picking up 2 signals. The other detector would have sounded the same, and had the same warning lights on.
I have a V1, and wouldn't trade it for anything. It's saved me thousands of dollars in tickets (Probably just in my last trip to Montana). On 1-15 between Salt Lake and the Idaho boarder, I found its very common to LEOs to ride in pairs. One officer a few thousand feet ahead of the other. Had I not had my V1, I would have passed the first officer, then hammer down and get picked up by the second LEO.
I've made the trip twice from Las Vegas to Montana, cruised at 100+ the whole time, except for when the V1 sounded off! Never a ticket. The arrows are fantastic!
I have a V1, and wouldn't trade it for anything. It's saved me thousands of dollars in tickets (Probably just in my last trip to Montana). On 1-15 between Salt Lake and the Idaho boarder, I found its very common to LEOs to ride in pairs. One officer a few thousand feet ahead of the other. Had I not had my V1, I would have passed the first officer, then hammer down and get picked up by the second LEO.
I've made the trip twice from Las Vegas to Montana, cruised at 100+ the whole time, except for when the V1 sounded off! Never a ticket. The arrows are fantastic!
#25
Rennlist Member
Cruizing 160 down a Sunday afternoon deserted turnpike. There weren't even any cars visible as far as I could see either in front on behind. The V1 goes off strong like and instant on. I immediately lift, but don't hit the brakes. A habit to keep from drawing attention to myself. The V1 alert almost immediately stopped. As I am slowing towards the speed limit and reach about 110 the V1 comes back on pointing to the front. I continue to coast down to the speed limit and look in vain for the source. No source ever spotted. Once I had passed the source and the V1 stopped beeping I cranked it back up and continued my 500 mile trip averaging 100 mph including a stop for food and gas.
I imagine the officer hitting me with instant on and upon seeing 160 thought "No Way" and cycled the power on the unit then hit me again. That was about the time difference between the hits. By then I had slowed considerably and he must have decided I wasn't endangering anyone since there was zero traffic for miles and miles. Or maybe fiigured I was slowing down and that was good enough.
The statute of limitations is 7 years, right?
I imagine the officer hitting me with instant on and upon seeing 160 thought "No Way" and cycled the power on the unit then hit me again. That was about the time difference between the hits. By then I had slowed considerably and he must have decided I wasn't endangering anyone since there was zero traffic for miles and miles. Or maybe fiigured I was slowing down and that was good enough.
The statute of limitations is 7 years, right?
#26
Nordschleife Master
Oh and the V1 does give a great amount of false warnings, but the V1 has a different tone for each kind of radar/laser, so its very easy to determine which is a real threat and which is not.
It takes a little practice to tune your ear to the tones, but after a few trips, you can decide if you need to mash the brakes, or keep the hammer down in a split second.
It takes a little practice to tune your ear to the tones, but after a few trips, you can decide if you need to mash the brakes, or keep the hammer down in a split second.
#27
Race Car
Cruizing 160 down a Sunday afternoon deserted turnpike. There weren't even any cars visible as far as I could see either in front on behind. The V1 goes off strong like and instant on. I immediately lift, but don't hit the brakes. A habit to keep from drawing attention to myself. The V1 alert almost immediately stopped. As I am slowing towards the speed limit and reach about 110 the V1 comes back on pointing to the front. I continue to coast down to the speed limit and look in vain for the source. No source ever spotted. Once I had passed the source and the V1 stopped beeping I cranked it back up and continued my 500 mile trip averaging 100 mph including a stop for food and gas.
I imagine the officer hitting me with instant on and upon seeing 160 thought "No Way" and cycled the power on the unit then hit me again. That was about the time difference between the hits. By then I had slowed considerably and he must have decided I wasn't endangering anyone since there was zero traffic for miles and miles. Or maybe fiigured I was slowing down and that was good enough.
I imagine the officer hitting me with instant on and upon seeing 160 thought "No Way" and cycled the power on the unit then hit me again. That was about the time difference between the hits. By then I had slowed considerably and he must have decided I wasn't endangering anyone since there was zero traffic for miles and miles. Or maybe fiigured I was slowing down and that was good enough.
Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft
#28
Rennlist Member
Maybe he figured he couldn't catch me. They can only do about 135 in their standard cruisers. One of the reasons I sped back up was to make sure I could get past the next turnpike interchange before reinforcements could arrive there to set up a road block.
That was an interesting road trip. It was over a 4th of July weekend. I only drove fast in the gaps between groups of cars that always seem to travel together. Otherwise I very politely and slowly work my way through the group to the next gap. It was interesting because I noticed the trucks were intentionally holding back traffic. The would obviously let me through with miles of open highway to the next group.
Doing that same style of driving I've had a pursuit Highway patrol car follow me for 50 miles reaching speeds of 140 in the gaps. When I finally exited he pulled up beside, flashed his interior lights and gave me a big grin and a thumbs up.
That was an interesting road trip. It was over a 4th of July weekend. I only drove fast in the gaps between groups of cars that always seem to travel together. Otherwise I very politely and slowly work my way through the group to the next gap. It was interesting because I noticed the trucks were intentionally holding back traffic. The would obviously let me through with miles of open highway to the next group.
Doing that same style of driving I've had a pursuit Highway patrol car follow me for 50 miles reaching speeds of 140 in the gaps. When I finally exited he pulled up beside, flashed his interior lights and gave me a big grin and a thumbs up.
#29
Rest in Peace
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bird lover in Sharpsburg
Posts: 9,903
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
So in the video above, the V1 showed that you passed (with the arrows) the LEO and were moving away from it. The other detector kept the same tone, and warning..... IF there had been another LEO a few blocks up, then the V1 would have showed 2 arrows, one ahead and one behind, and showed it was picking up 2 signals. The other detector would have sounded the same, and had the same warning lights on.
I have a V1, and wouldn't trade it for anything. It's saved me thousands of dollars in tickets (Probably just in my last trip to Montana). On 1-15 between Salt Lake and the Idaho boarder, I found its very common to LEOs to ride in pairs. One officer a few thousand feet ahead of the other. Had I not had my V1, I would have passed the first officer, then hammer down and get picked up by the second LEO.
I've made the trip twice from Las Vegas to Montana, cruised at 100+ the whole time, except for when the V1 sounded off! Never a ticket. The arrows are fantastic!
I have a V1, and wouldn't trade it for anything. It's saved me thousands of dollars in tickets (Probably just in my last trip to Montana). On 1-15 between Salt Lake and the Idaho boarder, I found its very common to LEOs to ride in pairs. One officer a few thousand feet ahead of the other. Had I not had my V1, I would have passed the first officer, then hammer down and get picked up by the second LEO.
I've made the trip twice from Las Vegas to Montana, cruised at 100+ the whole time, except for when the V1 sounded off! Never a ticket. The arrows are fantastic!
#30
Rest in Peace
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bird lover in Sharpsburg
Posts: 9,903
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Oh and the V1 does give a great amount of false warnings, but the V1 has a different tone for each kind of radar/laser, so its very easy to determine which is a real threat and which is not.
It takes a little practice to tune your ear to the tones, but after a few trips, you can decide if you need to mash the brakes, or keep the hammer down in a split second.
It takes a little practice to tune your ear to the tones, but after a few trips, you can decide if you need to mash the brakes, or keep the hammer down in a split second.
If my 9500CI goes off I KNOW it is a real threat.