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Engine in or out to do head gaskets???

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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Why did you pull the exhaust maniforld off the heads? They will come off with the heads. Or at least they do on a LHD 928.
I tried taking the exhaust manifold loose at the cat bypass but the bolts were frozen. By removing the exhaust studs, I was able to pull the heads with the exhaust in place.

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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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In the venerable words of Walk K. - "Real men pull engines"
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Let me put it another way. I have experience in this.

When you try to do it in the car, you are not having fun. Its hard work. Irritating, painful work.

When you pull the engine and put it on the stand, it becomes FUN, enjoyable work.

Which one do you choose?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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How about the irritating, painful work of pulling the engine?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Pulling the motor seems intimidating, but it will be easier. Just the time trying to torque the cam carriers will make up for the pulling time. However, beware of the 'while we're in there' disease. It is much more virulent when the motor is pulled and can result in a 1 week project turning into a 1 year project.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Pull it, if the 16v heads haven't been off in a while (or ever) the cam cover fasteners can bind in their bores and break the bolts. Even with the engine out I've had a difficult time getting the cam covers off (depending on the engine).
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendanC
In the venerable words of Walk K. - "Real men pull engines"
Was wondering when someone would bring up Walt's favorite task. Heck he even pulls the engine to change spark plugs!!!!

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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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From my experience with 2 valve heads on 944 engines, isn't it more difficult on 16v cars because of the studs?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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VERY true
Originally Posted by BrendanC
Let me put it another way. I have experience in this.

When you try to do it in the car, you are not having fun. Its hard work. Irritating, painful work.

When you pull the engine and put it on the stand, it becomes FUN, enjoyable work.

Which one do you choose?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
The heads are a piece of cake to remove on a 16V motor, it's the cam towers that are a royal PIA that makes yanking the motor easier.
Spoken like a man who knows.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Iccy928
Pull it, if the 16v heads haven't been off in a while (or ever) the cam cover fasteners can bind in their bores and break the bolts. Even with the engine out I've had a difficult time getting the cam covers off (depending on the engine).
Another man who knows.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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I haven't pulled the heads but have done ALL other engine projects.

If to do it again I'd pull the engine and do all at once.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 04:01 AM
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Thanks for the advice guys - I think I will go for the engine pull as I also want to do engine mounts, OPG, upper suspension bar bushes, timing belt etc etc. I have all winter to do it so there is no rush.

Ken - I live in Waterloo - just outside Broadford so not far from Portree.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Good choice. Pulled mine when faced with the same dilemma and it is a PITA to work on in the car .. and agree its a pleasure to work on when on a stand. It means you do all the things you want and need to do in half the time .. and properly. Decided to take mine out at 8 one night by myself (first time) ... was out and totally dismantled 8 hours later.
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