hacker-pschorr

That's not true. When my clutch was having issues, 1st and Reverse would grind. That was a few years ago and now with a perfect clutch my tranny is fine.

Reverse doesn't have synchros so that will be the first sign of a non-disengaging clutch.
There are a few reasons why 1st would also grind versus other gears, leave that for another thread.

Bottom line is, the clutch is not fully releasing. I agree with others it's probably not from old fluid and I doubt a simple bleed will fix it.

Best case scenario it just needs to be adjusted properly. If the intermediate disc is stuck in the wrong location the clutch will never disengage. I highly doubt this is the case.

Another option is the hydraulic system needs to be updated. This can get expensive since the master cylinder is a PIA to replace. Some cut a hole in the fender for this, I'm not a fan of this option (and yes Ive performed the job).

Worst case scenario the intermediate disc is worn beyond the useful range, that part alone is $600+ and more than likely the rest of the clutch parts (two discs, release bearing, pilot bearing etc...) will need to be refreshed too. This adds another $700-$900 in parts...... Labor isn't too bad assuming you have a shop lined up that knows how to adjust these (even some dealerships during the production of these cars couldn't figure it out).

There are a few options in between, but a car with this history I'm willing to bet it will need a full clutch pack and I would update the hydraulics now before they fail completely while out on the road.

Damn it guys, stop perpetuating the idea that this is normal for our cars!!!!!!

I spent a countless hours and boxes of "test parts" thanks to Mark Anderson trying to dial in my clutch. Now with over 400hp and a tranny with 100,000+ miles the only downside from shifting too fast into 2nd or 3rd is the car going sideways.
Yes 1st to 2nd is a bit awkward, that's due to the dog leg linkage, not the synchros. The S4's I've driven were not any more "fluid" than my two OB's.

Yes shifting into reverse too fast is a bad idea in any manual transmission car. You have to wait for the rotating mass of the clutch to stop before going for reverse. In a car like the 928 that includes the extra mass of the torque tube.

Yes the synchros are weaker in the early transmission cars versus the 85+. That doesn't mean they are garbage and all grind. Far too many people have spent years and thousands of miles driving cars with clutches not adjusted properly, writing off the "notchy, grinding" gears as normal for these cars.

On top of all this, how many early cars have worn shift linkages which makes all of these problems worse?

billtool

$10,000 away from a $5,000 car...I just love that...Congrats on your purchase brother.

Iwanna928

!0k away from a 5k car. WHO CARES! She is yours, do what you want, fix her up, modify her the way you like, she's yours. Anyone that buy's a 928 to fix her up and sell her is nuts anyway. Anyone who has been around cars and has any experiencs w/ modifying one.....making them go fast.... will know that you will be upside down in no time, so big deal.

We buy a platform we like and build on it!

Good luck!

Stephen

antsmands

Looks like you got a good deal. A lot less that I paid for mine, but who cares, I wanted it! Enjoy Your Car!

Jakkq

He had just professionally installed a new clutch last year, and I don't think it was ever bled at all. I had the hydraulics and synchros checked. They are in great condition. None of the gears grind though since I bled her.

Sorry, I'll post up an underhood picture later. A LOT of things have been replaced. 2 owners, and this guy put $6,000 into himself already. New water pump, timing belt, spark plugs, vacuum hoses, lines- you name it!

119k miles.


This colorbond stuff will work great for spraying down the interior to give it a fantastic looking refurbish. However, how should I go about doing this? I'm talking spraying down the whole interior. The spray is wet, but it dries in about 10 seconds. Should I keep the windows down, or maybe even take the doors off, leave the back hatch open , and do it outside? To me this seems the best solution, but I'm not completely sure!

Landseer

I don't know if I'd do that.

A new carpet kit from Robert Budd would be cool.

Hacker, I've replaced every tiny little gonad in the clutch area. Including the intermediate plate. It shifts pretty well now. But lift your foot in 4th and it pops out so hard it almost shifts itself to 5th. Right now, I live with it. And its still a blast to drive.

Jakkq

The colorbond is made for this type of thing though. Leather, Vinyl, Plastics, rubber etc. I have used it before and it works just great!

I just used it on the rear hatch carpet, and it looks completely brand new. I had to take a brush to it to get a little of the stiffness out, but It's a really cheap, amazing new look fix!

soontobered84

It's your car...if it makes YOU happy then go for it! Enjoy driving your car and maybe we'll see you out on the road!

danglerb

Professionally installed and not bled do not jive.

Hilton

Nice score - a manual 928S for cheap money. Replace all the fuel lines that haven't been replaced as top priority.

Before you spray the colorbond - your car has a full leather interior (can see the stitching on the drivers door armrest).

You'll find you get great results using a leather cleaner like Leatherique to clean the door panels, dash, headliner, rear quarters etc. - judging by the pics, the leather is filthy and will clean up well with the right treatment. Plenty of good threads here about Leatherique's rejuvenating oil.

Remove the carpet from the car - its much easier to use a carpet cleaner when they're flat. However, new carpet sets aren't too expensive from 928leathershop, and will be a great start to making the interior nice.

Shark Attack

If you feel you got a good deal, You did. Why ask and ruin your car for you?