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Old 11-01-2009, 01:17 PM
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Who's car are you calling a rust bucket 8>)
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Old 11-01-2009, 01:26 PM
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Just deal with the whole hydraulic assembly as a unit. It's not that hard, less than half an hour to remove and about 45 minutes to install(extra 15 min. for the bracket).

Old 11-01-2009, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ROG100
Who's car are you calling a rust bucket 8>)
Yours, if you are to afraid to take the booster out.
Old 11-01-2009, 02:12 PM
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I cut my 90GT. That prolly caused my engine to sieze, the clutch to fry, belt to break, and the LH to fail. Oh yeah, the airbag light to come on also.
Old 11-01-2009, 03:03 PM
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Look at it as a "modification, improvement", because it is. Porsche sould have designed it that way...... If they had any brains they would have done the same thing for the oil seperator on a 996 C4. Gotta pull the motor to get to that puppy, and they are guaranteed to fail.
Old 11-01-2009, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
I cut my 90GT. That prolly caused my engine to sieze, the clutch to fry, belt to break, and the LH to fail. Oh yeah, the airbag light to come on also.
You left out low compression at your next annual, it can happen.
Old 11-01-2009, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blown 87
You left out low compression at your next annual, it can happen.
Man, you know how to put a hurty on a guy.
Old 11-01-2009, 05:02 PM
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At first I thought the cutting was a joke. My beetle has a hole cut (like sardine can) out behind the back seat for easy access to the starter, even thought the only way to take it out is to remove the lower bolt from under the car and loosen the uper bolt by removing the nut from behind the fan shroud.
I’m going to watch out for that hole if I decide to get a manual.
Old 11-01-2009, 05:38 PM
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I swear, sometimes I'm ashamed to say that I grew up in Texas. And this is one of them.

No matter which way you do it, it isn't fun to take out the CMC but it isn't that damn hard.

As far as I'm concerned Dante has a circle reserved for you folks.
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Originally Posted by docmirror
Man, you know how to put a hurty on a guy.
Doc, I did not say a word about not being able to get a third class M_____l, and I am not going to now.

We wont even kid about that.

My cousin I grew up with just put in a Zero timed one in 172, and some of us think we hide stuff from the wife.
Plus he put in some other things in the panel.

I did not ask, but that had to leave a mark on the bank account.
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If I lined up 10 cars and told you that 5 had holes cut and five didn't, you would never be able to tell which was which without tools, and lights and possibly inspection mirrors.
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Originally Posted by docmirror
If I lined up 10 cars and told you that 5 had holes cut and five didn't, you would never be able to tell which was which without tools, and lights and possibly inspection mirrors.
If one came to me for a full PPI you can bet i would find it.

It would put a big question in my mind of what else had corners been cut on.

I would tell the prospective owner to find one that had not been hacked up.

We are talking about cutting on a car to save a couple of hours.

Come on Doc, you really can not think doing things like that are really ok.
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Originally Posted by blown 87
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I would tell the prospective owner to find one that had not been hacked up...
Really?
So if all the majors check out well, and match provided maintenance receipts, you would suggest the prospective owner to move on....
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Ok, but given that the car is otherwise suitable, would the hole in the fender justify a price shave?

Doing things like this are ok for a car, but not for an airplane. I just went through the hassle of replacing an instrument in my panel. Imagine if you will, a 50-something guy, laying upside down on a few pillows jammed up against the rudders with a penlight in his mouth, and a 10-32 screw gummed to his index finger, while trying to get a screw starter tool around the scat tube to drive a screw in a instrument bezel.

That guy was me, and I've done it before. Last night I made a special tool to remove an o-ring buried 14 inches up a strut tube. Then, devised a way to put the new o-ring in using some construction paper, duct tape, and a chunk of poly pipe.

I know how to do hard jobs right. When it comes to stuff like a clutch hose that can't be reached, I hesitate for a while then I do what needs to be done. It's not structural, it's not visual. I know there are other ways to do the job, but this is fast, easy and allows future access to the hose if it needs work again. I've seen dealerships do similar work from Ford to Porsche.
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Originally Posted by docmirror
I've seen dealerships do similar work from Ford to Porsche.
I have seen factory manuals (Chevy) where a repair procedure involved cutting something. But, not in the 928 WSM.

If I paid a shop or dealer to replace a part on one of my 928s and they cut a hole in the car you'd better believe I wouldn't just take it.

If a 928 was brought to me for an inspection I would, also, question where else corners were cut. Unless it was for a track car or for parting out, I wouldn't buy a 928 with holes cut in the "body in white."


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