worf928

No.

I hate to say it but there is no "928 Heritage" that PAG would want to drag into marketing a new 2-door GT car. Most original purchasers of 928s got rid of them pretty quickly and don't have fond memories of them. If this wasn't true then the numbers of 928s leaving dealerships wouldn't have been in a steady decline after 1987. If this wasn't true 911 turbos of the same model year wouldn't go for twice as much or more as the same year 928.

We, however, are a small group that happens to share the same mindset as the engineers that designed the 928: They designed something they would want. Our small group happens to also want that car.

A successor to the 928 that we would like - or at least *I* would like - would weigh in at far less than 4000 pounds, wouldn't have hundreds of pounds of 'lectric gizmos (four-zone climate control? No thank you.) and would have king-of-the-hill class performance. True to the Porsche of twenty years ago, such a car would be built because the engineers and designers wanted to drive it and they would start with a clean sheet.

That car exists. The Ferrari 599.

The Porsche of today may build a two-door GT car, based on a 4-door sedan, that is based on a truck. It will have been run through so many focus groups of the target demographic and through ruthless accountants that it will not be something the engineers would want to drive or keep and maintain lovingly for 30 or 40 years. It will be an compromised amalgam of least-common denominator factors just sufficient to get the target demographic to buy it and turn it over in a few years for another Porsche.

Sorry. I stopped drinking Porsche kool-aid a couple of years ago. They don't build, design, market, or service them they way they used to. They pretend that they do. But, they don't. They used to be designed and built by engineers and drivers and were marketed to drivers and racers. Now, that's all a hoax. No LSD? A sunroof in a GT3? Denying warranty claims for a Boxster or 911 taken to an autocross?

Still, though. That silver one - and the red one in the other thread - really works for me (modulo a couple of items.) If it isn't priced in "Ferrari-Land" but close to the Panamera I might have to take a serious look at it - the bad taste of Porsche Kool-Aid be damned.

sweet928

Don't like the new Panamerica - got to see it up close last week on a trip to London. Nice details all over the car but just kinda ordinary looking to me.

The car on that link however is sweet. However, also looks alot like everything out there - I see a little Ferrari, Jaguar, Aston on that car. In 1978, The 928 was different in every way. It didn't look like anything else, then and now.

Where is all the great design talent these days? Everything is a knockoff and a me too lately. Where's the visionary - bold step - next generation designs? Look what Bugatti did and even to some extend Audi with the R8. Those are designs no one is going to confuse with anything else. That's what the new 928 should be something totally new and fresh and keep it under 90k.

LT Texan

I voted no. There's just no demand for a new 928.

I wouldn't buy one, would you? Honestly.

worf928

I might buy a Porsche-badged Ferrari 599 killer if it was priced appropriately. But, Porsche is not going to build that car. I'd bet a Panamera on it, but Nicole got burned on that kind of bet already.

bronto

You have surely talked to more of them than I have, but every time I show mine a good number of people come up and say they used to have one, loved it and wished they'd never sold it.

Could be a regional thing??

Okv

No, they should not try to build a new 928.
If they did, I believe they would fail to creat a car with the same kind of soul in it as the original 928 has.

I have seen the Panamera, it is a nice and good car, but the whole concept of the construction and design is far, far from the 928.
If they made a coupe version of this one, it would be an insult to all sharks to call it a new 928.
Would this new one be a better car?
Yes, very likely, with advances in technology and all that.
But that is not the point.

The 928 is a cool car.
Please leave it like that.

JCP1990S4

YES YES YES. I think it will bring alot of attention to the 928 and increase the value of the 1st generation cars. Plus, like the 928 it maybe a bargin down the road and I might be able to afford one when its 15 to 20 years old.....

928ntslow

No

moon928

I vote no. There can only be one 928. The new car regardless of the name, or number it receives will always be compared to the original front engine water-cooled coupe we all so love.

The question is when Porsche finally decides to market it- will they give the original 928 more than 2 seconds of face time in the commercial?

Ispeed

Dave C is right... The 928 was designed when focus groups were engineers and test drivers, not empty suits with no passion for cars and driving.
Today's Porsche is all about image, tradition, and living on past racing glory. Where has LSD been since the 993? Why handicap the boxster/cayman with less hp than a 911?
I don't own a "Porsche", I drive a 928...

aggravation

I'm with Dave C on this too, the 928 I think us 928 lovers would want isn't what they would build and frankly I'd rather have the 997 turbo than any 928 they would build because it, at least, would deliver the enjoyment and engagement as a grand touring sport kind of car that the new 928 would most likely not. I don't want a >$150,000, 4000lb+ Porsche version of the DB9 and I'm afraid that's what it would be.

Now if they would resume production of the 928 as it was designed... a limited edition... but upgrade the electronics and tweak the engine and do up the engine control with modern tech, maybe a factory twin turbo/supercharger or something, and tweak the body with flush fitting glass and better aero/spoiler/wheel arches/etc. new interior touches etc.
Basically create a lighter faster modern tech 928 then I'd be all over that but the bean counters wouldn't let them re-release what they see as a failed product from days gone by. It's too bad to because I think a lot of people would love that car.

inactiveuser1

If they would do like Ford did with the remake of the Mustang.
Also the way Dodge redid the Challenger.
Chevy redid the Camaro.
I would rather see the 928 closer to what it was with modern updates.
The 928 back then seemed more like an outcast when alot complained about back then of water cooled up front engine.
They should just make the 928 look close to what it was put all wheel drive in it,launch control,pdk,turbo... make it compete more with the Nissan GT-R since that is all wheel drive front engine,would of liked that idea better than the Panamera.
Call it a GT928-R
Since they don't make it,thats why later on would want to go to 997TT like Craig says it would probably end up being a 4000lb car

linderpat

I like this point the best. This would be my choice. Unfortunately, VW would never invest in that tooling strategy, especially since they need to make their investment back on the Panamera platform.

wag

"Panamerica".... A car designed by the old 911 folks at Porsche who have little or no concept of the 928 who believe that one design fits all. Where are the guys that designed the 928?? They must be all gone, as the Panamerica had none of them in the design room.

The 928, was a car that Porsche designed that was ahead of it's time and still is. Yes, they have there faults, but so does my wife's Toyota. The upkeep and electrical issues are many, but yet, we all get in our cars and smile when turning the key on and enjoy the sounds of music. My 85s with 167m on it, draws looks everywhere through it's cutting edge design, sheet metal work, modern style and an interior that still today, is much more comfortable than most cars of similar type. I doubt many can honestly say that driving across country in a Mustang, or a Vette, is as comfortable??

Xlot here posted some pictures from a UK car magizine, that looks pretty impressive, and is what I would consider very worthy of the "928 Badge", as long as there was a 300+ cubic inch motor under the badge.

JG928S4

I see the p28amera right in the ALMS trading paint w/the Austin and Vettes. Those whom think Porsche is not in racing must not follow it?? They have always been involved in something throughout the years, and I do not believe you can show that data for any other marque racing anything close to what a consumer can buy, you can even order a not street legal race car. ??? YES, YES, name it whatever you want, as proven by this thread all will compare to the 928 just like the 4 door is.

JG