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Old 07-25-2009 | 07:52 PM
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I spent more money on my first 928 trying to get it run right than you could possibly have in this car.

Walk away. Move on. Better yet, take my example. I am walking away and moving on. I cannot help you or sort the facts, except to tell you that it is just a car, and you can do better in the future....

AND WHAT DID WE LEARN ???? Ta Ta .
Old 07-25-2009 | 11:02 PM
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in NJ when you register a car they don't hand you a title that same day. They process the title and it can take 30-60 days. so it's not exactly a registration problem. Keep in mind the dealer i bought the car from had to process the title from PA so it's didnt come to me until 30-60 days.
What did I learn "never have somebody deliver a vehicle. lesson learned do everything yourself. Maybe after 54 car purchases I got complacent
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Maybe after 54 car purchases I got complacent
Any chance the thread title could be changed to, Car 54 where are you?
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Any chance the thread title could be changed to, Car 54 where are you?
Old 07-25-2009 | 11:26 PM
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it's more than just the car, the dirty cop that helped steal the vehicle charged me with "theft by unlawful taking" "theft by Deception" and "receiving stolen property" in PA.. My attorney(no #1) only practiced in NJ, so I hired a second attorney that practiced in PA and NJ.
The cop postponed the court case about 4 times for "vacation leave" so he could have time to sell the car. The second attorney came highly recommended by my wife and her friends, Turns out this attorney was a complete fraud, I paid him a lot of money and he basically turned things into a bigger matter so he could earn about a years pay. I think he saw how bothered I was by having charges, I'm near 40 and had a squeaky clean record my whole life. something very disturbing about getting arrested for the theft of your own car, and it was blood boiling to have a mountain of proper paperwork only to see two cops become judge and jury over the phone, I was honestly removed from the investigation via one phone call.

Anyhow the day before my first court appearance the Prosecutor dropped the charges I'm guessing once he read the police report
Old 07-25-2009 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by danglerb
Any chance the thread title could be changed to, Car 54 where are you?
Mike - only old folks remember that show. Very funny connection. That was Fred Gywnn first famous television character, Herman Munster the best.

In light of the recent news out of NJ I'm not so sure any civic process there is worth noting.
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the difference is the cops in car 54 were intelligent
Old 07-25-2009 | 11:46 PM
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Finding out your lawyer isn't the smartest lawyer in the room is never pleasant, so I'll offer some of my own totally worthless legal advice.

Did the dealer you bought the car from have the legal right to sell it?

Who owns the car now, whats the CarFax say?
Old 07-25-2009 | 11:57 PM
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I feel your angst. So many twists it has to be true...many dishonest people in the world.
Please dear Lord tell me he is joking.............................


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Anyhow the day before my first court appearance the Prosecutor dropped the charges I'm guessing once he read the police report
or maybe you were declared unfit to stand trial....................
Old 07-26-2009 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by EPMD-101
I bought the car from a dealer, the delivery guy signed his name on my bill of sale and kept a copy and key without my knowledge and delivered the car. ...

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in NJ when you register a car they don't hand you a title that same day. They process the title and it can take 30-60 days. so it's not exactly a registration problem.

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Keep in mind the dealer i bought the car from had to process the title from PA so it's didnt come to me until 30-60 days.
What did I learn "never have somebody deliver a vehicle. lesson learned do everything yourself. Maybe after 54 car purchases I got complacent
It's entirely a Registration problem. You didn't take a paper title to NJ's DMV.
You didn't pay your sales taxes.
You didn't Register your purchase.
You didn't pay your tag fee for a license plate.


You did all of the above to avoid or delay paying sales taxes and tag fees.

By avoiding Registering your purchase, you left yourself vulnerable to title fraud. Someone figured it out and now you have no car.

And you'll never get it back.

Document fraud won't work if you are honest and register your car with the state, pay your taxes, and tag your vehicle. In fact, the State will fight on your side for you. No attorney fees required on your part.

But you don't qualify for the State's help because you were scamming the State out of their sales taxes and license fees.

That's why you can't post the license plate number. You never got one for the car...because you never paid the tag fee to get a license plate.

That's also why you can't post a picture of a state-issued title to the car in your name...because you never Registered the car with the State of NJ DMV.

At most you had a paper title that you handwrote your name on. Worthless. If it isn't typed by the state, it isn't in their computer records...which means the car isn't in your name...which means that a thief can gin up some documents, register the car and pay your taxes...and the car becomes theirs.

And that leaves you forever SOL.
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I did take my PA paper title to the NJ DMV
I did pay the sales tax "twice" as a matter of fact the dealer made an error, I paid the dealer and NJ DMV.
I registered my purchase shortly after I got my title and got my NJ tags

sorry you cant understand that this involves a dirty cop, it's not a paperwork problem it's a dirty cop... I'm up against a blue wall....
Old 07-26-2009 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EPMD-101
No doubt
I did take my PA paper title to the NJ DMV
I did pay the sales tax "twice" as a matter of fact the dealer made an error, I paid the dealer and NJ DMV.
I registered my purchase shortly after I got my title and got my NJ tags

sorry you cant understand that this involves a dirty cop, it's not a paperwork problem it's a dirty cop... I'm up against a blue wall....

That part of your story isn't believable. Document fraud only works when you don't register your car. So when you get all mad and claim that you "won't" post a picture of your NJ title, I just think "the poor guy is busted because he never had such a title."

Look, you can post a 1,000 excuses why you "won't" post your NJ title...I'll never believe them.

What I would believe is a photo of your title, and you can't post it because you never got one from the State of NJ.

Same for your license tag.

You "won't" post your license tag # for that 928......because you can't...because you never got one...because you never registered your title and paid your license tag fee.


No title.
No license plate, just TEMP tags.
No title insurance.
No car insurance that would cover your situtuation.

And you have no car.


There's a recurring theme here. At least half of the adult population will see it, most easily.
Old 07-26-2009 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by EPMD-101
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I did take my PA paper title to the NJ DMV
I did pay the sales tax "twice" as a matter of fact the dealer made an error, I paid the dealer and NJ DMV...


Just because I know that you can't, I'll give you what would be an easy way to prove me wrong about you...if you were an honest man.

Just post a picture of your cleared and cancelled check that you wrote to the NJ DMV for your sales taxes, title registration, and license tag fee.

And save the excuses. Only a photo would convince me. Your words mean nothing.
Old 07-26-2009 | 01:44 AM
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who do you think law enforcement believes when a problem occurs a civilian or a fellow officer? I have 100 percent truth on my side, title, transfer, money exchange, phone records. carfax, pictures, witnesses. Even the dealer's testimony which is = to my claims.

Dirty cop has
false phone records, A drug addicts explanation(story), a police report that has dates that are contradictory to his own states DMV records. "disregard of proper procedure" . But the power to remove my title from the DMV and do whatever he wants
Old 07-26-2009 | 01:48 AM
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"Document fraud only works when you don't register your car"

really then why did I just get my 3rd year registration from NJ, and a cop and a drug addict were able to sell my Porsche to a guy in warminster PA?



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