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Old 07-20-2009, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by blown 87
Really, the last one I ordered for a 928 came in a Bosch box.
Bosch box inside a 928Sp box?

Old 07-20-2009, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by White Lightnin'
Bosch box inside a 928Sp box?

The control valve was in a Bosch box.
Have you ever bought a new one?
If it is not in a Bosch box it is more than likely a re-man.
Old 07-20-2009, 01:27 PM
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Just playin' Greg... if I had to buy one for my personal use, I would let my wallet dictate my choice.
Old 07-20-2009, 01:29 PM
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Just for posterity, the Bosch # on the two I have on the bench is 0 280 140 515. Are they really $400 now? I paid $223 for a new one in 9/06, hard to believe they doubled in 3 years, but I suppose anything's possible.

I have no idea whether a $139 ISV = a $400 ISV minus the pretty yellow box. I would certainly hope so, but I'm left thinking about the cheap 'Bosch' Fuel pumps that Mark A warned us about:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...fuel-pump.html

I know the ISV's in question have a Bosch # on them, but given the Chinese penchant for respecting intellectual property rights, how hard could it be to fake the sticker on the part?
Old 07-20-2009, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Just for posterity, the Bosch # on the two I have on the bench is 0 280 140 515. Are they really $400 now? I paid $223 for a new one in 9/06, hard to believe they doubled in 3 years, but I suppose anything's possible.

I have no idea whether a $139 ISV = a $400 ISV minus the pretty yellow box. I would certainly hope so, but I'm left thinking about the cheap 'Bosch' Fuel pumps that Mark A warned us about:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...fuel-pump.html

I know the ISV's in question have a Bosch # on them, but given the Chinese penchant for respecting intellectual property rights, how hard could it be to fake the sticker on the part?
I did not even think about it being a knock off.
That is a real possibility.
Old 07-20-2009, 01:38 PM
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I thought Bosch used cast-in or embossed coding of some sort on their parts?
Old 07-20-2009, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by White Lightnin'
Just playin' Greg... if I had to buy one for my personal use, I would let my wallet dictate my choice.
This is how allot of people think, myself included. Why would i pay more then i have to for the same part?

Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Just for posterity, the Bosch # on the two I have on the bench is 0 280 140 515. Are they really $400 now? I paid $223 for a new one in 9/06, hard to believe they doubled in 3 years, but I suppose anything's possible.

I have no idea whether a $139 ISV = a $400 ISV minus the pretty yellow box. I would certainly hope so, but I'm left thinking about the cheap 'Bosch' Fuel pumps that Mark A warned us about:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...fuel-pump.html

I know the ISV's in question have a Bosch # on them, but given the Chinese penchant for respecting intellectual property rights, how hard could it be to fake the sticker on the part?
Rob, Those parts were being sold on Ebay and if im not mistaken were sent from overseas too. As in they werent even shipped from a US location when you bought them.

This part comes from Autozone who regardless of what we buy there, most of their stuff isnt stuff i would put on my Porsche but i can be certain that they did not buy parts from a Chinese source, that would be a huge lawsuit and that would NEVER happen. If im wrong i would be the first in line for a Class Action Lawsuit. Greg, if you believe it so strongly, please let me know where to sign up and im there.

Conspiracy theorists please have at it!
Old 07-20-2009, 03:33 PM
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Talk about tempest in a teapot...

I was at Rob's, as was Luan. I mentioned that I still had the intake project to get onto my calendar. He asked if I had picked up a new ISV. I'm in the Roger camp on these, and generally try cleaning the one that's in there working fine before dropping $400 on a new one. He mentioned that he had found his at Autozone online for that low price mentioned. I asked him to share the info he had. The post probably could have been a PM, and saved some folks the finger action in commenting. Yes, this has been hashed over before. Yes, it is a part with a Bosch part number in a yellow Bosch box with the logo on it. Yes, I will be getting one. Yes, there is a chance that it is in fact a cheap knock-off of the original part. There's also the risk that -I- am a cheap knock-off of the original. It took me a while to polish my accent, especially critical when typing on the support forums. Those with a discerning eye may pick up on the cheap Chinese legs sticking out of the cheap Chinese cargo shorts in the work pictures. If that's not proof I don't know what is. I had to color my cheap wig to white to throw off the knock-off dogs too. Worked OK until today, but now my cover is blown.
Old 07-20-2009, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dr bob
Talk about tempest in a teapot...

I was at Rob's, as was Luan. I mentioned that I still had the intake project to get onto my calendar. He asked if I had picked up a new ISV. I'm in the Roger camp on these, and generally try cleaning the one that's in there working fine before dropping $400 on a new one. He mentioned that he had found his at Autozone online for that low price mentioned. I asked him to share the info he had. The post probably could have been a PM, and saved some folks the finger action in commenting. Yes, this has been hashed over before. Yes, it is a part with a Bosch part number in a yellow Bosch box with the logo on it. Yes, I will be getting one. Yes, there is a chance that it is in fact a cheap knock-off of the original part. There's also the risk that -I- am a cheap knock-off of the original. It took me a while to polish my accent, especially critical when typing on the support forums. Those with a discerning eye may pick up on the cheap Chinese legs sticking out of the cheap Chinese cargo shorts in the work pictures. If that's not proof I don't know what is. I had to color my cheap wig to white to throw off the knock-off dogs too. Worked OK until today, but now my cover is blown.
The ones that were posted in another thread were not in a Bosch box.
I hope it is a real Bosch part and works well for you.
Old 07-20-2009, 03:48 PM
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I think the ISV from Autozone is an AC Delco part if I'm not mistaken and not Bosch. I have run into this in the past with Autozone.
Old 07-20-2009, 04:18 PM
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I think this same part was used on my Saab 9000. It went bad shortly after I installed water injection and I just replaced it with a section of straight hose.
Old 07-20-2009, 05:59 PM
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Not to add gasoline to an ongoing fire...but...as far as I have been able to find out, many of the engine management parts sold at AutoZone for the 928, are made by Wells Manufacturing out of Fond du Lac, WI. They've been around since 1903.
Old 07-20-2009, 06:11 PM
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Nobody is saying they are bad and can agree with the post above. I had a $5 thermostat in my 944 and that thing lasted the whole time till I got rid of the car. Just an example.

They also sell water pumps but who knows what those are like....
Old 07-20-2009, 09:26 PM
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Maybe I'll just soak the old one in cod liver oil and hope for the best, You guys are scaring me again!
Old 07-20-2009, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dr bob
Maybe I'll just soak the old one in cod liver oil and hope for the best, You guys are scaring me again!
dont listen to them Bob, they are just envious


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