Marine Blue

Now that is a great response.

Good Grief is right. These people haven't a clue what it takes to make those batteries used in the Prius and other hybrid cars. It blows my mind how people can be so gullable in this world. Its like a herd of sheep with only a small percentage who really get it.

I wonder if this kind of attitude is also being seen in SoCal, anyone know?

928worldwide

LOL. What a hot pile of crap....

hacker-pschorr

I'll come visit you one of these days.......

If every 928 ever made was driving around San Fran without CATS, they would still not compare to the real pollutants to California:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ping-pollution

From that link:
Confidential data from maritime industry insiders based on engine size and the quality of fuel typically used by ships and cars shows that just 15 of the world's biggest ships may now emit as much pollution as all the world's 760m cars. Low-grade ship bunker fuel (or fuel oil) has up to 2,000 times the sulphur content of diesel fuel used in US and European automobiles.
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Cars driving 15,000km a year emit approximately 101 grammes of sulphur oxide gases (or SOx) in that time. The world's largest ships' diesel engines which typically operate for about 280 days a year generate roughly 5,200 tonnes of SOx.

The tree huggers do not like to talk about studies that have overwhelming shown how much of the pollution in California is from ships coming into your harbors. It's not fashionable to bitch about a ship based based in the Cayman Islands or some other county that has zero pollution regulations. Instead they prefer to send letters like this one to Andy and drive around in their Prius with their noses up in the air.

AO

What a load of crap. Just ignore it, or find out who they are and call the "cleaning crew."

I don't recall ever seeing DR wearing thong underwear. Now Jeannie... I dream about it every day.

BTW, the waitresses at the bar in Hell all wear this kind of stuff and I highly encourage it among all our female attendees.

Rick Carter

Thanks Hacker, I didn't know that.

Tim Murphy

Hacker, I saw that article once before. Pretty incredible.

Mongo

I'm already looking forward to my next offense.

Regardless of aftermarket cats or not, they will need to be replaced again probably as I just diagnosed a 4 cylinder running condition to bad coils. I wonder if any pooled gas in there ate the cats up. Oh well, at least they didn't report the smoking that day when they failed. Prior, means no excuse and a load of Liberal crap going on up here.

blown 87

Mongo funny

Mongo

Sooner or later they will all be named Perez Hilton..

dr bob

One thing that's obviously lost in the discussion is the carbon footprint. Cats don't change your carbon footprint, they just change the shape of the gas coming out of the pipes from CO to CO2. The carbon footprint fro the car is defined by the amount of fuel that passes through the motor per mile. Your personal carbon footprint is the total amount of carbon repurposed on your behalf, whether it's fuel for the car or hydrocarbons consumed to keep your computer running and talking, and all the stuff that you use to support that effort.

There's a federal effort to offer tax credits for folks who turn in cars that have high fuel consumption for lower consumtion vehicles. Certain regions of this state with high smog levels broker older cars with higher total pollution for smog 'credits' or offsets for industry. They buy up your car and take credit for getting a gas guzzler off the road, and use those 'saved' tons of emissions to help justify their tons of emissions. The letter you received may be a batch or form letter aimed at specific-aged vehicles in your area.

As far as the 'smoke', remind the complainer that the puff of water vapor they saw following the cold startup is a sure sign that the cats on your car are working just fine, and thanks for reminding you that you are doing your part to reduce harmful pollution.


On the ships-at-sea entering the harbors here, the target is specificaly soot (PM10 and PM100), the visible part of diesel exhaust. Shisp are already encouraged to reduce speed coming to LA harbor to cut those emissions, use lower-sulphur oil in the neighborhood, hook up to shore power when docked so they don't have to run their engines, etc. Slowing the ship adds transit time, and we actaully have no jusridiction outside the three-mile limit from shore. The harbor depts don't want shippers to find other places (like Mexico) to offload, so everything is pretty much done on a voluntary basis now.

RicerSchnitzzle

Is there a return address on the letter? Just sayin'.

A big bag of burning coal on their front lawn should show them a nice carbon footprint...

ptuomov

But going commando with a Brazilian is still legal, no?

AaronSweat

I think that it's funny that some of these so called green people ride around with their noses up in Vespa scooters that put out more hydrocarbons than most cars. Most of those scooters have little or no regulation on how much they pollute the environment, and that's not even the vintage ones, which are probably worse.

JD928_S4

I would say one thing... Do you have any idea the environmental impact producing a new car has? How about driving the cars we have already spent millions of dollars in research, development and production on, instead of needing to upgrade to the newest model every other year so our neighbors think we are environmentally friendly?... I am all for saving the environment, but no one ever seems to see the whole picture they just look at the emissions that exit the tail pipe.

-Rant over lol

hacker-pschorr

On paper looked like an ok idea, in reality falls quite short.

How many people driving around in a "clunker" $3500-$4500 car can afford or will be approved for a new car loan? They should have included used cars that are of a certain age (like five years). It was a proposed addition to the bill that was cut.




+1 - they are two strokes for christ sake!!!!