FBIII

I wasn't addressing the engine potential. I was addressing the platform in which the engine was being used.

Lopez

why the obsession with 1000 horsepower? because the number "1000" sounds cool? I am serious about this.

What do you want the car to do? Just have 1000 horsepower? That seems like an arbitrary and kind of non-sequitur way to define the car's performance. "Accelerate 0 to 100 and back to 0 in less than 9 seconds" or "1/4 mile in 8.5 seconds" seem to me to be much more relevant questions.

For example: (totally theoretical acceleration numbers here) say you found a way to build the motor/chassis out so that it was putting out 800 horsepower at the crank, and it went from 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds. Would it be worth it to go to 1000 horsepower to get the time down to 3.4?

I mean, at the end of the day you want to drive the car I assume? Why not figure out how you want it to perform and then work backwards from there? Unless you have already done all the math and know that 1000 horsepower is what your performance requirements will take?

I don't mean to sound like an ***, if you really want 1000 horsepower for the sake of having 1000 horsepower then that's cool, it's your car. I'm just wondering if that's the way you've thought it through...

BBX

Hi Brett,
1. The Bugatti was designed from the ground up to withstand 1000hp.
2. Anyone can build a 1khp GT40.
3. Anyone can build a 1khp Viper.

Problem is, the two last cars cars were NOT "engineered to withstand or sustain" 1000hp. You do understand right?
I've seen 900hp CIVIC's but they only last a few runs down the track. It's just a matter of what the original platform was designed to do.
The platform you love was a car designed for medium to high speed touring, withstanding up to maybe 450 hp "reliably."

Like I said early, there comes a point when Horse Power/Torque starts to degrade your driving experience.

Mongo

First thing I would think of is closing the deck and reinforcing the cylinders somehow to maintain integrity at such high horsepower. Secondly - run alcohol. Nobody said a Methanol running car isn't streetable. I've seen Mazda RX-7s in catalogs that are driven on the street. Dunno how they can be registered though.

Definitely consider a standalone EMS that has the ability to handle very high HP applications. Motec seems to be the better mousetrap as I have seen a book that showed a Twin-Turbo Ferrari F50 with it built by Bob Norwood that made 1200HP.

Compression....hmm... less than 10:1?

Mako 928

Getting it smogged would be alot of fun. Even if you somehow passed the visual getting it on the rollers would be very trickey. last time I got my 85' smogged the tech could not maintain the range (and it is a very tight window) on the rollers. I ended up doing it myself. Now doing that with 1000 hp, have fun.

blown 87

I think all of it can be overcome with enough money.

RicerSchnitzzle

I'm glad the OP took N2O out to make it more challenging.

With giggle gas it would have been too easy.


Actually N20 would have the same restraints and issues any kind of boost would. Although it's "Softer" if run corretly, the difference is minor. An engine and driveline designed to run 1000hp would be basically the same for boost or spray. Meth injection would benefit both systems as well.

Ask Hulk's kid about driving a 1000hp supra on the street.... Although it's great for bragging rights, it's just not practical.

A car runs a red light and is heading right for you...IN your 1000hp car are you going to have the where with all to lightly hit the gas and move out of the way, or like most folks, will you stomp it to get out of the way resulting in a sit and spin? On a closed course with other fast cars, cool. On the 1/4 track, very cool. On the street with grandma's oldsmobile not so cool. Although I will go boost one day, I do enjoy the "Dual Nature" of my car with spray.

BC

There is nothing wrong with a bit of traction control.

Mongo

Somehow I think incorporating an afterburner may help too.

hacker-pschorr

Most of the cars putting down over 2,000hp are using superchargers

http://www.smreperformance.com/

Second motor is on pump gas

RKD in OKC

I think the most reliable 1000hp you are going to get is to put a loud exhaust on the car, put some extra firm shocks on the front so it spins the rear tires more easily and LIE ABOUT THE HORSEPOWER!

hacker-pschorr

It's funny how times change.
It wasn't even 5-6 years ago when similar threads were full of comments like: "It's impossible to build a 928 engine to make a reliable 500hp"
It has been an exciting few years watching multiple people with various methods crack this number with ease.


1,000hp from 5 liters? That's child's play with today's engine management systems.

Why is it the 951 guys can pump out 400+hp car after car without anyone batting an eye? Come over to the 928 world and suddenly this kind of power per liter is magically impossible just because it's a 928 engine.

RKD in OKC

Because the 951 guys can just crank up the boost and fix the stuff it breaks until it breaks so much stuff they part out the car and get almost as much back as they invested in it in the first place.

RicerSchnitzzle

Because 928 engine alloy is slightly different and includes 5% pixie dust.

Bottom line, in most debates it's much easier to say "No" than "Yes". For a "No" to win you only need one negative. For a "Yes" to win you need all positives. Just like saying CIS can't support over 500hp... There's those that say it can't be done and those quietly going about it.

Larry928GTS

My car makes over 4,500 in/lbs of torque!!

Yes, spending the time and money to build a 1,000hp street car that you then spend more time and money on to limit it to driving at half power is an option.