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Old May 26, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Why so slow? Tired of this.

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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Ussually I'd agree with you, but I've not been experiencing the problem of late. running fine for me. Do a virus scan on your computer - make sure that's not the problem.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Don't waste your time virus scanning. The server is as flaky as they get.

TraceRoute to 67.201.16.188 [forums.rennlist.com]

Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 29 25 23 72.249.0.65 -
2 15 26 43 8.9.232.73 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
3 32 30 14 4.68.19.126 vlan79.csw2.dallas1.level3.net
4 27 40 30 4.69.136.157 ae-73-73.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net
5 53 52 44 4.69.132.77 ae-3.ebr2.losangeles1.level3.net
6 54 54 44 4.69.137.26 ae-82-82.csw3.losangeles1.level3.net
7 45 41 38 4.68.20.137 ae-3-89.edge3.losangeles1.level3.net
8 40 55 58 4.71.136.2 xe2-0.cr01.lax01.mzima.net
9 51 54 39 64.235.224.182 xe1-0.cr01.lax02.mzima.net
10 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
11 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
12 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
13 Timed out Timed out Timed out -

Trace aborted.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Traceroutes are very subjective to your location. If your ISP/telco has a buggy router, downed router or a noisy fibre link, you can get oddities show up in traceroutes. From the looks of it, they're not doing anything sophisticated like load-balancing using DNS round-robins. I imagine they're just experiencing high server loads due to some rogue process of some sort. It might be the the database backend that's slowing things down as well.

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Don't waste your time virus scanning. The server is as flaky as they get.

TraceRoute to 67.201.16.188 [forums.rennlist.com]

Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 29 25 23 72.249.0.65 -
2 15 26 43 8.9.232.73 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
3 32 30 14 4.68.19.126 vlan79.csw2.dallas1.level3.net
4 27 40 30 4.69.136.157 ae-73-73.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net
5 53 52 44 4.69.132.77 ae-3.ebr2.losangeles1.level3.net
6 54 54 44 4.69.137.26 ae-82-82.csw3.losangeles1.level3.net
7 45 41 38 4.68.20.137 ae-3-89.edge3.losangeles1.level3.net
8 40 55 58 4.71.136.2 xe2-0.cr01.lax01.mzima.net
9 51 54 39 64.235.224.182 xe1-0.cr01.lax02.mzima.net
10 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
11 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
12 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
13 Timed out Timed out Timed out -

Trace aborted.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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I've done a probe in the past and IB seems to be blocking ICMP and UDP at their firewall -- that's why you never see a response from 67.201.16.188. I have a tool at home I can run that probes a bit deeper than is possible with traceroute... I'll post results later, after I get home.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Very very very sloooooooooow in Illinois.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Dave

I'm only 6 hops away from them, and still see erratic server performance on a very regular basis. I think it's a database server issue, because I can see the non-caches page sections pretty quickly but wait for the dynamic stuff to load. No telling what other server loads are sharing the database server at any given time.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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VERY VERY SLOW.......
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Old May 26, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveG
Why so slow? Tired of this.

Reutterwerk.com
I have that problem w/ Reutter so I never go there anymore... Every time I have been on that site it has been like pulling teeth it is so painfully slow!
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Old May 26, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Bob, John, I know there is a lot more to it than ping times(e.g. traceroute). They seem to be running mysql, which ought to be pretty scalable -- but it seems that they are just no allocating many resources at the moment. They could be doing rolling upgrades or some such that leaves a portion of their capacity down at any given time.

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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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I see there is a notification at the top of the forum:

"Yikes someone has fitted a Corvette engine to our firewall, and we are runnniiiiinnnnnnggggggg ssslllllooooowwwwww. A flat six will be returning soon."

It's not a problem reaching the web server, it's a problem internal to IB (most likely with the webserver talking to the database and figuring out what to send back to you). Note the 78ms HTTP response. Maybe they should skip the flat six and fit a Porsche V8 to the firewall...
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Good news and bad news: They found the problem, but the solution might be worse...

From the "Notices" banner:

Yikes someone has fitted a Corvette engine to our firewall, and we are runnniiiiinnnnnnggggggg ssslllllooooowwwwww. A flat six will be returning soon.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pcar928fan
I have that problem w/ Reutter so I never go there anymore... Every time I have been on that site it has been like pulling teeth it is so painfully slow!

I'm still getting oriented there, but this problem I don't have.
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