New 928S4 Restoration Thread
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New 928S4 Restoration Thread
Well, since my last restoration thread turned into a flame fest. I decided to pick up my project again and try to restore my 928. A little history on my car the color is painted is special ordered Indian Red Metallic. It has 12 way seats both side heated, Rear AC LSD and it's an early 87 S4 which means it has the folding wing and the squirter block engine.
It's also my first real car that I bought I love this car it's mean alot to me. With the help of Roger and James Bailey, I've been able to get many of the parts I need to fix it. I'm having the TB/WP done next week and having shocks replaced with new boge shocks from Roger Thanks also to Sean, for pointing me in the right direction and for help James Morrison also( The center caps look great!) and of course to Paul Champagne I'm having my seats completely redone front and rear. Hopefully I can have my car ready to go to the OCIC this year and if not I will just fly to Dallas I can't miss seeing all those rare and pretty 928s.
If any of you have any parts to sell me I'd highly appreciate it at the moment I'm looking for a driver's side headlight and taillight also driver's side(they're cracked) A front spoiler as well would be nice.
Thanks, for reading this and I hope this doesn't turn into a flame-fest about my age again.
It's also my first real car that I bought I love this car it's mean alot to me. With the help of Roger and James Bailey, I've been able to get many of the parts I need to fix it. I'm having the TB/WP done next week and having shocks replaced with new boge shocks from Roger Thanks also to Sean, for pointing me in the right direction and for help James Morrison also( The center caps look great!) and of course to Paul Champagne I'm having my seats completely redone front and rear. Hopefully I can have my car ready to go to the OCIC this year and if not I will just fly to Dallas I can't miss seeing all those rare and pretty 928s.
If any of you have any parts to sell me I'd highly appreciate it at the moment I'm looking for a driver's side headlight and taillight also driver's side(they're cracked) A front spoiler as well would be nice.
Thanks, for reading this and I hope this doesn't turn into a flame-fest about my age again.
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My first problem I have now is my A/C compressor belt it has alot of play and it squeals and kills the voltage on my car after looking over I reached to the conclusion that this is the pronlem the belt has a lot of play.
I made this video to show what I mean. Please forgive, I don't know all the technical terms for this
P.S I recorded this with my Iphone looks pretty good I think
I made this video to show what I mean. Please forgive, I don't know all the technical terms for this
P.S I recorded this with my Iphone looks pretty good I think
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Joey:
OK, I couldn't see much in that video, but this frame shows the AC belt tension adjuster. You loosen the large bolt indicated by the green arrow and then turn in the nut indicated by the red arrow. However, it appears you are almost out of adjustment. Try snugging it up. Re-tighten the large bolt when you are done. The stock belt is 1125 mm long and this is usually printed on the outside of the belt. You could take the belt off and head to your local auto parts store and have them compare it to another 1125 if the numbers are worn off. The only bitch is that this is the inner most belt, so all the others would have to be removed first. Also, check that the other end of the adjustment bracket is bolted to the block together with the air pump bracket.
I'm not sure what you mean by "kills the voltage." You might want to check you alternator belt tension too. It's the outermost belt and is ribbed and should be very tight. The V-belts, like the AC belt don't need to be quite as tight.
BTW, I'd call this maintenance, not restoration.
OK, I couldn't see much in that video, but this frame shows the AC belt tension adjuster. You loosen the large bolt indicated by the green arrow and then turn in the nut indicated by the red arrow. However, it appears you are almost out of adjustment. Try snugging it up. Re-tighten the large bolt when you are done. The stock belt is 1125 mm long and this is usually printed on the outside of the belt. You could take the belt off and head to your local auto parts store and have them compare it to another 1125 if the numbers are worn off. The only bitch is that this is the inner most belt, so all the others would have to be removed first. Also, check that the other end of the adjustment bracket is bolted to the block together with the air pump bracket.
I'm not sure what you mean by "kills the voltage." You might want to check you alternator belt tension too. It's the outermost belt and is ribbed and should be very tight. The V-belts, like the AC belt don't need to be quite as tight.
BTW, I'd call this maintenance, not restoration.
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Hey Bill, thanks hopefully this fixes the problem thanks for using one of pictures from the video makes things much clearer
What I meant ,by kills the voltage is that when it starts to squeal my voltmeter goes all the way down to less than 10. I've checked the other belts and they are properly done no problems there.
What I meant ,by kills the voltage is that when it starts to squeal my voltmeter goes all the way down to less than 10. I've checked the other belts and they are properly done no problems there.
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Well, that makes me think the compressor or the compressor clutch bearing may be partially siezing and dragging the RPM down. Snug the belt if you can and see if the squealing goes away. If it gets worse then it wasn't being caused by the loose AC belt.
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also check the hot post for the voltage your dash gauge may be off
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It fixed the problem tightening that bolt I just ordered some shocks from Roger so that's next as well as the TB/WP job I should have these done in the next week.
Meanwhile, I've been busy trying to find a stock blaupunkt radio for my car. I found one out of a 944 My car had option 158 which was Blaupunkt Reno. I only paid $10 for this so I'm happy don't know yet if it works or not ,but its in good cosmetic condition except for the cassette cover which ahs some rust.
Meanwhile, I've been busy trying to find a stock blaupunkt radio for my car. I found one out of a 944 My car had option 158 which was Blaupunkt Reno. I only paid $10 for this so I'm happy don't know yet if it works or not ,but its in good cosmetic condition except for the cassette cover which ahs some rust.
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Have fun Joey. Going from adjusting the AC belt to installing shocks and a TB/WP job is a BIG jump. There are a ton of potential "gotchas" in the TB/WP job. And the shock job sure benefits from some extra hands. Do you have all the tools? Do you have any 928 buds around your area to help you?
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Just my mechanic closest people that I know of are Sean. I was planning on
taking my car to sean and roger, but I don't think it will make it in it's current state as soon as I'm done with these two jobs I will.
taking my car to sean and roger, but I don't think it will make it in it's current state as soon as I'm done with these two jobs I will.
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Well, I tried to see how the stock radio is supposed to work. After, I was reffered to SWStereo to fix my harness which was damaged by PO to install a Blaupunkt Sacramento, I decided to search for the amplifier.
Unless, I'm looking for it in the wrong place its long gone :-\ Anyone have a working unit to sell me?
Unless, I'm looking for it in the wrong place its long gone :-\ Anyone have a working unit to sell me?
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Just get a Blaupunkt Bahamas MP46 http://www.swstereo.com/stdetail.php?prodID=49
I put one in my '87 S4 and used the SW Stereo amp bypass harness to connect directly to the speakers.
It sounded great and was easy to install.
Hopefully your speakers are still OK and the wires are still where the amp used to be (that's where the SW Stereo amp bypass harness will run to).
I suggest you get some local 'Listers to help you with that TB/WP job, not to mention the shock job.
I put one in my '87 S4 and used the SW Stereo amp bypass harness to connect directly to the speakers.
It sounded great and was easy to install.
Hopefully your speakers are still OK and the wires are still where the amp used to be (that's where the SW Stereo amp bypass harness will run to).
I suggest you get some local 'Listers to help you with that TB/WP job, not to mention the shock job.
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Yeah I remember seeing your thread about that thing is I want my 928 to be fully stock I have an 09 Altima with pretty much the whole tech package I want my 928 to be as close to as it did when it left Germany.
There isn't any close listers to me. How hard is the tb/wp job to do??
There isn't any close listers to me. How hard is the tb/wp job to do??
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It's a bitch, but with the help here and Dwayne's manual (or similar online manual), you should be able to handle it. Take your time and clean out all the bolt holes good and blow them out. All the WP bolts are different, so place your new WP out on the box, and as you remove each bolt from the old WP, place them into the hole it will go in on the new WP.
You'll need a flywheel lock and belt tension gauge tool, other than that, just common hand tools and lots of patience. You are too young for beer, but that helps too.
I would still suggest you place a call for help on here. An experienced eye really helps.
You'll need a flywheel lock and belt tension gauge tool, other than that, just common hand tools and lots of patience. You are too young for beer, but that helps too.
I would still suggest you place a call for help on here. An experienced eye really helps.
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It's a bitch, but with the help here and Dwayne's manual (or similar online manual), you should be able to handle it. Take your time and clean out all the bolt holes good and blow them out. All the WP bolts are different, so place your new WP out on the box, and as you remove each bolt from the old WP, place them into the hole it will go in on the new WP.
You'll need a flywheel lock and belt tension gauge tool, other than that, just common hand tools and lots of patience. You are too young for beer, but that helps too.
I would still suggest you place a call for help on here. An experienced eye really helps.
You'll need a flywheel lock and belt tension gauge tool, other than that, just common hand tools and lots of patience. You are too young for beer, but that helps too.
I would still suggest you place a call for help on here. An experienced eye really helps.
I'll start reading all the manuals and see if I think I can handle it and well beer might help. But, whiskey might be better for this ha ha it clears my mind up