The tragic death of Leeroy...who saved my life while dying:(
03-31-2009, 01:50 PM
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03-31-2009, 01:59 PM
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I agree I've done similar things in emergencies, when I should have done the exact opposite, causing me damage and risk I could have avoided. However, the one thing no-one has addressed, is whether, when your brakes fail and you have no visibility, you should skip across 3 lanes at speed, enter an intersection against a light, and continue going. As Jim Bailey said, the brakes will work if you keep on them, just power assist is gone. And if the brakes fail totally, there is the emergency handbrake. And in all of this, the option of engine braking dropping to a lower gear is always there too. I'm talking about what saves lives. I'm not recriminating or in any way criticising.
With brake boost gone, will the clutch still work?
03-31-2009, 02:29 PM
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The USA 80-84 cars the injector hoses are a common source for fuel leaks . Odds are the fire melted the plastic fitting for the power brake booster and there was no power assist which in that situation would FEEL like no brakes. Good news is the car can be replaced !
I am going to replace my fuel hoses this easter and might try to change the injector hoses to if it is an easy job while I'm working in the same area...
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03-31-2009, 04:05 PM
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Hopefully you have full coverage. If so, in the current market you may be able to buy an S-4 w/ the ins. money. If not, sorry for your loss.
03-31-2009, 04:16 PM
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A clutch does not need vacuum assist and has nothing to do with the brake booster. In the 928 it is only hydraulic so if the hoses are ok and brake fluid is in the system barring a big leak, the clutch will still work fine.
About the handbrake, if you think it takes a lot of effort to stop at slow speeds, then it is not adjusted properly. I can pretty easily lock up both my 275 rears with my handbrake (I actually did it by accident on the dyno once while the wheels spun over 100+mph and they stopped to a screeching halt in like 2 seconds). Of course, it would be a good idea to NOT lock up the rears going 75mph on the highway
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About the handbrake, if you think it takes a lot of effort to stop at slow speeds, then it is not adjusted properly. I can pretty easily lock up both my 275 rears with my handbrake (I actually did it by accident on the dyno once while the wheels spun over 100+mph and they stopped to a screeching halt in like 2 seconds). Of course, it would be a good idea to NOT lock up the rears going 75mph on the highway
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03-31-2009, 04:31 PM
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Well, the fabulous company Geiko said the car was over 10 years old and they do not offer full coverage, so I had comp & collision. I didnt hit anyone ( thank god) sooooo Im covered for nada
03-31-2009, 04:34 PM
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Hvithaien - You don't want to use just ordinary fuel hose which doesn't handle the EFI pressure. You need fuel injection hose with the reinforced inner liner and the proper fuel injection clamps. Depending on your area these items might be tough to find. Roger at 928srus sells kits that are reasonably priced.
03-31-2009, 04:47 PM
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I replaced what I thought was all the fuel lines on my 85 Euro. While i was taking apart the intake I found one more hose coming from the fuel line near the passenger well. I assumed it was metal, it was all cracked and I missed it completely.
03-31-2009, 06:07 PM
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Hvithaien - You don't want to use just ordinary fuel hose which doesn't handle the EFI pressure. You need fuel injection hose with the reinforced inner liner and the proper fuel injection clamps. Depending on your area these items might be tough to find. Roger at 928srus sells kits that are reasonably priced.
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03-31-2009, 06:17 PM
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CIS Runs about 5 bar. Unless you've modified to to run higher.... 12 bar is more than enough. You can have the correct re-enforced, teflon lined, hoses made at Carquest Auto Parts or Rubber Specialties for much less than the 928 specific vendors. Take your old hoses in for them to measure and match end fittings.
I had a full set of 3an fuel lines made, very much like Carl's $1000+ set up, for around $250. Braided SS over teflon lined HP Hose wth metric ends. About $25 a line for 24" with end fittings. I'm sure you can get the much shorter fuel lines made in a larger diameter, for about that each.
I had a full set of 3an fuel lines made, very much like Carl's $1000+ set up, for around $250. Braided SS over teflon lined HP Hose wth metric ends. About $25 a line for 24" with end fittings. I'm sure you can get the much shorter fuel lines made in a larger diameter, for about that each.
03-31-2009, 09:12 PM
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These remarks about brake fluid starting fires are making me feel kinda' relieved. Sitting in a 928 once, having just come off the freeway, at traffic lights at top of a hill. Brakes disappear completely - pedal goes to floor, and brake fluid exits stage left. Fortunately, managed to stop the car on the hill with the handbrake and abandon on the side of the road, without hitting anything. Never occurred to me that the car might have been about to catch fire - fortunately it didn't.
Amusing follow up (more amusing as it wasn't my car)
Double parked it on the side of the road while looking for a phone (didn't have a mobile handy) - got a parking ticket
Further amusing follow up
Road club guy comes to pick up car on a trailer - accidentally sticks a hole the size of my fist in the front bumper, and a deep scratch righht across the hood. Costs $6K to repair.
Further amusing follow up (as noted above, more amusing because it wasn't my car)
Many weeks later, after shop has just finished replacing bumper and hood (parts took a while to get), and everything is good to go, shop has a break-in - intruders smash up car (as well as lots of other cars in the shop), doing another $25K worth of damage.
All the damage was covered by various insurers, so all up no out of pocket, except for car being unavailable for a couple of months.
All this from a brake failure which did not itself damage the car at all...
Amusing follow up (more amusing as it wasn't my car)
Double parked it on the side of the road while looking for a phone (didn't have a mobile handy) - got a parking ticket
Further amusing follow up
Road club guy comes to pick up car on a trailer - accidentally sticks a hole the size of my fist in the front bumper, and a deep scratch righht across the hood. Costs $6K to repair.
Further amusing follow up (as noted above, more amusing because it wasn't my car)
Many weeks later, after shop has just finished replacing bumper and hood (parts took a while to get), and everything is good to go, shop has a break-in - intruders smash up car (as well as lots of other cars in the shop), doing another $25K worth of damage.
All the damage was covered by various insurers, so all up no out of pocket, except for car being unavailable for a couple of months.
All this from a brake failure which did not itself damage the car at all...