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Old 12-29-2008, 05:12 PM
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ENJOY!!

Oh, and those bigger injectors should really wake this motor up!
Old 12-29-2008, 05:21 PM
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Shawn
Congratulations on your new toy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As a 1st hand "victim" to what Doc can do to a 6.5L 928 in an automatic....I fully understand the you are going through right now & Robs had LSD + 295's in the rear..& it still was pointless.........

You should pick up quite a bit of HP with 24lb injectors and more tuning.....maybe 30lb injectors are needed?
Old 12-29-2008, 05:30 PM
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Greg seemed to believe that 24 pound injectors would cover the fuel needs (and of course need a complete re-map once we get them in there). Apparently there was room to add more timing, which in addition to the added fuel and perhaps some better breathing from the new cams just might be a ton of fun

I may have a stronger B2 piston put in along with the LSD, since it's a known weak point in the automatic. I already have a constantine clamp keeping a firm grip on the torque tube.

It's been an obscenely expensive adventure (makes me think of Pretty Woman, where the salesman asks if Richard Geere plans to spend a meerely "offensive" amount of money, or really "obscene"), but lordy it's got that torque I wanted, and I have the confidence of Greg having cleaned, torqued and lock-tighted just about every nut bolt and washer in the drivetrain...
Old 12-29-2008, 05:42 PM
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what kind of cams are in the car currently?
Old 12-29-2008, 06:14 PM
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The car is currently running GT cams on the intake, and GTS exhaust (due to the almost non-existence of fresh GT exhaust cam supplies).
Old 12-29-2008, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ShawnSmith
The car is currently running GT cams on the intake, and GTS exhaust (due to the almost non-existence of fresh GT exhaust cam supplies).
arent S4 exhaust cams supposed to be an upgrade over GTS exhausts?

Or was that intakes?

I recall hearing that in a GTS engine if you swap in either exhaust or intakes from an S4 you get a nice bump in HP.
Old 12-29-2008, 07:34 PM
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From memory, the GT cams have greater lift than S4 and GTS on both intake and exhaust (and GTS lift is higher than S4). Things get more interesting as you look at the rest of the cam parameters. Putting in the GTS exhaust cams was an experiment, and it appears we need more than what it can do.

FYI in all my comments, when I say "we", I really mean "Greg" with me occassionally offering a less-than-perfectly-informed opinion.
Old 12-29-2008, 08:15 PM
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I have an extra set of GTS exhaust cams available if anyone is in the market.
Old 12-29-2008, 08:32 PM
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Almost forgot what I was going to post....
Congrats on the monster motor Shawn, sounds like you are just beginning to tap into the power reserves that motor has in store. I get stoked everytime I hear that another stroker 928 has been unleashed in the world. It's nice to see that GB has developed a method to create and maintain a steady stream of dependable "street" strokers to keep our 928's at the top of the food chain.
I'm definitely jealous.
Old 12-29-2008, 09:58 PM
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I took a coworker who normally rides an 1100 cc motorcycle for a run at lunch. He was unable to continue even speaking during WOT bursts

We've run the numbers, and noticed similar power-to-weight on our two wildly different modes of transport (he's a heavy guy on a big bike with a huge motor). We're thinking of a friendly roll-on someday.
Old 12-29-2008, 10:03 PM
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Ok, I'll ask the question that everyone here is wondering.

What kind of price ball park are we talking about to do what you did?
Old 12-29-2008, 10:21 PM
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It was silly expensive. think new-bmw 3 series kinds of money.

Heck, since some may not know the prices on late model BMW's here it is:

BMW 3-series Invoice Price Range: $30,085 - $45,540

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Old 12-30-2008, 08:53 AM
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Bloody ell. new cars are cheap over there.
Old 12-30-2008, 12:44 PM
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So, Shawn, was your car in the garage when the propane tank exploded?
Old 12-30-2008, 01:28 PM
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> So, Shawn, was your car in the garage when the propane tank exploded?

Doc Brown had coated the entire car in lock-tite which protected it from the blast


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