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Old 12-18-2008, 12:57 AM
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.125 is half of the number normally quoted and I think even that can cause problems. 104mm is at upper limit of most blocks even without core shift.
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This is excellent news. So what is the engine size using 103 pistons with the standard stroker crank?

Anyone know the current price on stock 968 pistons?
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Originally Posted by John Veninger
This is excellent news. So what is the engine size using 103 pistons with the standard stroker crank?
103.00mm x 95.25mm = 6.35L/387cid.

Anyone know the current price on stock 968 pistons?
$540 or 474.07 euros each in few places. If they even are available new.
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Aren't 968 pistons the same as 944S2 pistons? Not that they would be any less rare, but at that ridiculous price you could probably source a banged up 944S2 and use its pistons.

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Yes, 944S2 are the same. all depends who made them.

Typical rate for used ones are around $100-$200 each, and they are USED.

$1700 for pistons that run in the original bore material is a good way to go.

I just hope I don't have to use that option anytime soon!
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Most 944 S2 seem to use Mahles which do not work in 928 stroker as they have full skirt while most 968 have Kolbenschmidt which work. Finding 8 good condition pistons can take years unless one buys few 968 engines. Which might not be too crazy way to get them. Selling block, crank, heads and cams might net so much $$$$ that pistons can end up being practically free. That is still slow and less smart way than geting new and very likely much lighter set for under $2k. In the end large part of the money can be saved on possibility to use cheaper heavier rods and need for less added mallory to crank.
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Russ are you sure about this? I don't have a cite for you, but I'm pretty sure that the Reynolds minimum spec was .250" wall thickness. I'll see if I can find a source for my number, do you have one for yours?

This issue with going slightly larger than 104mm is finding a ring that will work with the alusil at that bore size, no one makes one.

-Adam

Originally Posted by largecar379
106.5mm is too big on a 85/86 block (thickest wall block)......according to Reynolds, you want to have at least .125 wall thickness. you can barely do it with 106mm, and then you need to be concerned with core shift.


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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
.125 is half of the number normally quoted and I think even that can cause problems. 104mm is at upper limit of most blocks even without core shift.
Yeah, what Erkka said....
Old 12-19-2008, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dprantl
Aren't 968 pistons the same as 944S2 pistons?
No they are not the same. I have used both with good sucess but the S2 pistons can require some clearance. I do have some good used S2 pistons for $50 ea.
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Originally Posted by atb
This issue with going slightly larger than 104mm is finding a ring that will work with the alusil at that bore size, no one makes one.
-Adam
Ring that will work with the Alusil? The rings aren't special, are they?
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Are the Wossners forged? Never mind I read the title
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Originally Posted by Fabio421
Ring that will work with the Alusil? The rings aren't special, are they?
Oh yes they are.

That ring sizes are available? BMW's Alusil engines all have under 100mm pistons AFAIK so no help from there.
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BTW - the 106.5mm pistons I mentioned were for a 951 Darton MID sleeved block...
I hope nobody thought it was for a 928 block!
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Oh yes they are.

That ring sizes are available? BMW's Alusil engines all have under 100mm pistons AFAIK so no help from there.
Wossner does have alusil rings availalbe up to 106mm, I had to pester them for almost a year to get them up to that size.
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Ring material for Alusil.
What will / wont work or best options ?.


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