Just wanted the say thanks Jim!
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I'm installing my Hybrid in the Alien. I had it in the car and running but it developed an oil leak. A bad oil leak. I pulled the engine back out not knowing where it was leaking from. And besides, working on this engine while it's in the car is like doing brain surgury through a coke bottle neck.
I discovered the oil seal on the pump was pushed out about 1/8". I removed the seal and cleaned up all the oil. I was out of Yamabond, which is what I usually use to assist with securing these seals. I glued the seal in with JB 4 minute epoxy to be sure the seal wouldn't push out again.
I reinstalled the engine in the Alien. I fired it off this morning and ran it about 3 minutes when I noticed oil leaking again.!
I figured maybe the pressure relief valve was sticking. I pulled it and cleaned it an reinstalled the cap with an extra aluminum washer to drop the pressure. Still leaked.
I called 928 International and Jim answered. He solved my problem over the phone by asking about 3 questions in about 1 minute. Maybe most of you know that there is an early and late oil pump. I didn't.
I have a 1980 M 28/11 block bored to 5.0. During assembly I grabbed the cleanest pump of three that I have. It turns out the pump I used has the redesigned seal relief hole that gets blocked off if you install it in the early block. This causes the seal to balloon and leak.
Now that I know the leak isn't from the balancer or the block seam I pulled the pump with the engine in the car. It is possible to do but the pump just clears the firewall. It is about a half hour job with the engine in the car. I matched up my three pumps and there is a clear difference in the seal relief location. I'm installing an early cast steel pump and shelving the late model one.
So, Thanks Jim! Next time I drive the Alien out to the gold coast I'm buying!
I discovered the oil seal on the pump was pushed out about 1/8". I removed the seal and cleaned up all the oil. I was out of Yamabond, which is what I usually use to assist with securing these seals. I glued the seal in with JB 4 minute epoxy to be sure the seal wouldn't push out again.
I reinstalled the engine in the Alien. I fired it off this morning and ran it about 3 minutes when I noticed oil leaking again.!
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I called 928 International and Jim answered. He solved my problem over the phone by asking about 3 questions in about 1 minute. Maybe most of you know that there is an early and late oil pump. I didn't.
I have a 1980 M 28/11 block bored to 5.0. During assembly I grabbed the cleanest pump of three that I have. It turns out the pump I used has the redesigned seal relief hole that gets blocked off if you install it in the early block. This causes the seal to balloon and leak.
Now that I know the leak isn't from the balancer or the block seam I pulled the pump with the engine in the car. It is possible to do but the pump just clears the firewall. It is about a half hour job with the engine in the car. I matched up my three pumps and there is a clear difference in the seal relief location. I'm installing an early cast steel pump and shelving the late model one.
So, Thanks Jim! Next time I drive the Alien out to the gold coast I'm buying!
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care to share any pictures for future reference, Glad to hear that your engine project is coming along
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Yes, I have both types on the bench as spare parts. I'll get some photos tomorrow and post them. Seriously, it's not something you would spot unless you were looking for it.
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That sounds about right,...... experience is a good teacher, and a picture can be worth a thousand words.
I wonder if there is any info about the different pumps in the WSM
I wonder if there is any info about the different pumps in the WSM
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I'll take a Jim Bailey for 500 alex!
"I'm sorry chet, that won't get you much. Add another zero."
"I'm sorry chet, that won't get you much. Add another zero."