Understood!

 

A thought for all on this subject. . . .
If your exhaust sound is loud enough, does this render your car's horn obsolete?

 

A thought for all fans of loud cars...

Does a loud exhaust render the car's horn obsolete??

 

No no, not at all. My car, even with its aftermarket exhaust (I call it "custom hubby") still has its quiet tones at low rpms, and has catalyst converters, but is definitely noticeable when I rev it. So a sudden situation that would require brakes, not power, would not give me the motor noise of passing and I would still require a horn.

 

No way, the horn is a necessity. And I mean real Porsche air horns, not those electronic doodads. Horns that scare the crap out of anyone within a 300 yard radius.

 

Real Porsche horns? I'm kind of underwhelmed by mine. You mean Fiamms? The kind on Ferraris? I'd love loud air horns like the tractor trailers have, but I don't think there's room anywhere to put them.

 

I may not have given many of you ample time to respond with seriousness to my question (keep the opinions flowing anyway) but so far, Roger of 928sRus falls in line with what i was asking for.... the delivery of the most power to my rear wheels while remaining a gentleman behind the wheel. I just spoke with Roger and he is open minded about your 928 needs and desires. I want power AND quiet and he has the knowledge and parts to help me with this. (He can make it loud if you want loud as well.)
Thanks Roger.......

Allen in Allentown, PA

 

Internal combustion engines run better without a cork stuffed into the exhaust pipe (cats and hi-restriction resonators or mufflers). Sometimes louder goes hand in hand with faster. The better you move air in and out of the engine, the better it will perform.

BTW, a Rattlesnake makes a lot of noise before he bites you, as does a Cobra. It's nature's way of saying "don't mess with me, I'm one bad ****".

But to remain a gentleman and still go fast, put on an x-pipe w/o cats preferably, or w hi-flow cats (if you don't want Al Gore to lose any sleep), take off the air pump, and leave the rest of the exhaust alone.

Then you can say, "Excuse me, please pass the Grey Poupon quickly, I'm in a hurry sir!"

I have an RMB, X-pipe w/o kitties, and FlowMasters on my S4 and I say "Hey man pass me the damn Texas Pete before I slap the hell outta your ***!!"

 

+1. I believe this car is a gentleman's express. My presence alone is adequate, I have no need to announce it. :insert snooty emoticon:
;-)

wwh

P.S. In my younger days, I too was chased down by a cop who heard me - from a parallel street.

 

Ahhhh.... another Gentleman. Thanks Fogey1 (I believe your name is Will.)
I don't believe what you said was 'snooty', you just have a wry and clever sense of humor which is genuinely appreciated by me.

To expand this philosophical discussion about automobile noise a bit wider, isn't the reason Americans have been typically frowned by Europeans because the average American visiting there is boisterously loud and obnoxious and unwilling to adhere (or even learn) the more refined habits and customs of their country? All Americans are not like this but reputations are created by average behavior. And when did we, as a nation, go from aspiring toward the loftiest, most sophisticated, most intelligent levels of society to striving for the lowest common denominator among us? People used to take pride in wearing fine clothing (especially on Sunday), would learn sophisticated dance, listen to complicated music by the great masters, exercise good table manners and be chivalrous toward women. The culture du jour gravitates to torn jeans and a T-shirt, wiggling your *** on a dance floor, music that goes thumpa- thumpa- thumpa- for the entire piece, shoving a fast food burger down your throat while talking and letting doors slam shut behind you while a woman is approaching the very same threshold.

Thank you but I will strive for quiet power from my car as well as other aspects of my life.
Does my attitude make me a snob of sorts? Perhaps in some people's eyes. But I prefer to view myself as a modern day Renaissance man on Rennlist.

Have I said too much? Naaaaaahhhhhhhhh.................................

All the Best,

Allen

 

And I thought all the survivors of the Titanic were now dead and gone.

 

Just because a person enjoys some raucous fun sometimes doesn't make them a jerk. . . so long as that person can enjoy themselves without excessively interfering with another person's personal space; this requires an active consciousness of one's surroundings, which is what I find sorely lacking today.

That said, we don't live in cocoons. The exhaust on my car is without a doubt obnoxiously loud, but it's that way for performance purposes. It's also not a daily driver. I'm guessing it's annoying to some drivers/neighbors, while others really enjoy it. If I drove it more often, I'd tone it down some. But because I drive it less than 5k miles a year, it's part of the fun.

Chivalry is just about dead, but I think that's feminism's fault. I still hold open doors for ladies, and say please and thank you, etc. I like NASCAR, yet I can also appreciate Mozart.

A true renaissance man can appreciate that which he does not enjoy for its own existence without denigrating it, as it adds to the value of that which he does enjoy.

 

My car is a daily driver. Not just that, it's a car for most occasions, whether it's going to/from work, getting groceries or driving 6 hours one way to the coast. I want it to haul *** and sound GOOD doing it, when required. Good in this case does not mean it has to be loud. I get a good laugh out of that really loud car that comes to a stop beside me at a light revving their engine and grinning, particularly at the point shortly thereafter where they disappear in my rear-view mirror with such speed they are left wondering wtf just happened

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

 

Gettin' deep here, but I'll play. I'm fast approaching 40 and truly enjoy the finer things...but my wallet doesn't let me play in the league I prefer. So I make up for it with as much taste and class I can muster, wearing nice clothes, being courteous to my wife (and most women), and driving a beautiful vintage Porsche GT. However, even the most sophisticated man-about-town can have a bit o' gasoline in his veins. Take Alan de Cadenet for example. Sophisticated chap with worldly experience, dresses well, wears a vintage Omega Speedmaster so obviously has exquisite taste...and yet...says the exhaust sound of the Ferrari 512P is the most incredible thing he's ever heard. It's primal. Every man likes to roar once in a while!

 

In my recent (and still on-going) experience of North America, I would say a lot of the desire to make the 928 loud and authorative has to do with the driving environment that North America is. All I can hear when I walk down the road in the middle of town is the sound of V8's. Not v8's like they are back in NZ, with definate tones and very low resonant rumbles, but more barky, almost tinny sounds. If I had a 928 over here I would definately have to do something to the exhaust, just so I could hear my own car while sitting inside of it, instead of all the rather large dodge/chev/ford trucks around me...