CarreraFour

Under this Topic heading- Boxster/S vs. ???...


[quote]Originally posted by Christer:
<strong>Why is the 928 called a shark? I think it should be called a hippo or at best 'bear'. A shark is a lean, mean predator. The 928 is a rounded, big-arsed creature. I have never seen a shark with a fat behind!

BTW, I am a fan of 928's and don't mean anything by this. I just don't understand where 'shark' comes from. Might as well call 964's 'giraffes'.</strong><hr></blockquote>


[quote]Originally posted by Christer:
<strong>Why is the 928 called a shark? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Do "pony cars" look like horses?
It is mostly everything to do with the way the car looks when viewed from the front with the head lamps laid back in the off position. It has often been said that it looks like a shark when overtaking another car as viewed through a rear view mirror <a href="http://patedwards.net/images/memorabilia/6.jpg" target="_blank">(See a photo here)</a> . Add in the perfomance component of the car that rear mirror view packs a nice bite into the tail of the car in front of it.

I think the naming is appropriate when I look at the front of the car. By the way that "fat arsed" design you thought so lowly of was the basis for the redesigned 996 (look closley my friend you will see many similarities).

TB 88 S4

Baby's got back.

Cant get too bent out of shape about someone who has no clue - just explain sloooowly.

Because usually they also think it has a 6

Chris Lockhart

They can talk about my GT's big ***, or my big *** for all that matters, but when the Shark sucks the paint slam off of his Box-turd, he'll think twice about the styling. Heck the 996 is so close to the S4/GT/GTS body styling it isn't even funny. BUT of course those are "real" Porsches, so it doesn't matter. Sorry for my (probably) inappropriate anger on this, but I get sick of other Porsche owners snubbing the 928 for whatever reason. Heck, all my Mustang buddies give the 928 more respect than other Porsche owners seem to. Thanks for pointing out the facts to them. <img src="graemlins/soapbox.gif" border="0" alt="[soapbox]" />

B737GDog

Everyone has there own taste. As much as I like the front end of the 928, it is the backside that gets my attention. Guess I am what some would call an ***-man! With what I have spent on my GT, I could have bought a Boxster but the thought never crossed my mind.

Ed Ruiz

I've heard unkind remarks made about the "other" Porsches from all sides, including 928ers putting down other Porsches. Fortunately, (IMO) those who do so are in a distinct minority. (BTW, the earliest put-down of 911s came from the 356 Registry with a T-shirt that read, "Sure Porsche made cars after 1965, but who cares?")

Most Porsche owners (like me) like/love Porsches - period! Personally, I don't take offense to someone who tells me they don't like 928s. They are entitled to their opinion, just as I'm entitled to mine. Basically - "Live and let live."

Besides, I didn't buy my 928 to please anyone else but me. If someone likes it - great. If they don't, then that's ok too.

reno928s

I have a 1984 928S with the 310 hP motor. When I was coming up 280 West a boxster tried to race me and I couldn't hold back and sucked him right into my intake and spit him out my exhaust. I pulled away as if, as if I was racing a boxster. Sal

Ell

Why do owners enjoy their Porsche’s? Is it the pride of ownership, quality of craftsmanship, Performance, or simply because it looks good? There are several reasons owners enjoy their Porsche, personally I enjoy the quality and performance. Because we all enjoy our cars for different reasons, the designers at Porsche designed and engineered several versions of pleasure. This was no matter what you taste, Porsche has a quality car for you.

If you look at the SCCA nationals, I didn’t see a 928 in the class. I run my shark at local and divisional events, however against a good driver my shark can’t keep up with a well-driven Boxster on a tight autocross course. If the course is opened up then I might have a chance. Again this is because different cars for different abilities.

Whatever car you drive, you can respect it as long as it is a Porsche. BTW I own both a 911 and 928. I wouldn’t part with either of them.

Ell
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Flint

On this same note, but going off on a tangent, it looks like the "next" 911 may be looking back for its styling. The november issue of CAR (the UK mag) has a sidebar-type article that the 997 will at least restore the true round headlights and a shape more like the 993. Just a small sign that the people in charge at Porsche are taking their past seriously.

icat

[quote]Originally posted by CarreraFour:
<strong>...Do "pony cars" look like horses?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think "shark" fits well. As for "pony" cars, the Mustang was the first - hence the name "pony" car. As for Boxsters, they will be fondly remembered by no one and will suffer the same fate as my beloved 944, the 914 before, and who knows what next. If it's not a 911 - it's doomed.

Disclaimer: Not really how I feel, just what I figure will happen. However I'd take a 928 over a Boxster any day!

V-Fib

I examined a Boxster up close and personal today. It was Yellow. Just my personal opinion, but the interior was rather, shall I say "inexpensive looking". I see several on the streets on a daily basis. May be fun to play with on the streets, but I wouldn't want to ride "cross country" in one. Not a Bash really, just my observation.

Anthony Tate
79/928 Silver Metallic

SkipSauls

Here's a shot of three "fat *****":



The 928 is the widest of the three by a couple of inches, but its proportions make it appear relatively slender. For example, look at how tall the Boxster's butt is from the bottom of the rear bumper to the base of the rear window. Similarly, the distance between the Boxster's tailights and the wide band in the 993's tailights serve to make both of them appear to be as wide or wider than the 928. It's the hood of the 928 that's really amazing when compared to most other models. The 928 is not a big car by any means, and you only need to look at modern GTs from Aston, Ferrari, and Jaguar to see how petite and lightweight it really is.

As for performance, a 928 S4 can smoke a stock Boxster in acceleration off the line or from any speed. A Boxster S will be slightly quicker to 60 MPH or so, but it might find itself on the losing end of the game at higher speeds. The 928 is not as nimble as a Boxster in the twisties or on the track, but it's still far better than all but a few non-Porsches.

I own a Boxster and a 928, and love them both. My bet is that those who criticize the various Porsche models have never had the opportunity to experience one. Each model has its own charms and quirks, but anyone who thinks that Porsche has produced duds is just plain ignorant.

John..

I think we just all were tired of hearing Ken2KS rant and rave about how fast and great he and his car are. It just fits the total image of the steroetypical modern Porsche driver.

I just changed my Porsche calender in my office. For October, it had a silver Boxter, November is a nice red 928. Everything is good now.

John Krawczyk

[quote](BTW, the earliest put-down of 911s came from the 356 Registry with a T-shirt that read, "Sure Porsche made cars after 1965, but who cares?")<hr></blockquote>

Reminds me of another 911 put down. Probably from the same era.

"Real Carreras have 4 cams."

CarreraFour

[quote]Originally posted by John Krawczyk:
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Reminds me of another 911 put down. Probably from the same era.

"Real Carreras have 4 cams."</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's sad that a clan of Porsche drivers can get away with this. These put downs are often also worn in places where other Porsche drivers congregate with other clubs that don't wear such trifiling trash about thier own marque. It perpetuates everything about dividing what makes our marque great as a whole and other car clubs get a chuckle out of our acceptatance of this type of trash into our own house.

Clothing with words written on them like that should only be allowed to be worn in places where it belongs- and on the backs of pot-bellied, 6 front tooth missing, dualie-Camaro drivers that move their trailer homes everytime the reception gets bad while watching the Jerry Springer show!

CarreraFour

Found this on the Pelican board... it's really funny

A Survey of Porsche Owners
This is all supposed to be satirical - nobody take it too personally.

356 – “Maintaining the Tradition” 356 owners can tell you, in painful detail every aspect about their car and when it was produced. 356 owners can recite from memory, the VIN, chassis, and engine numbers from their car, and if they are original. Due to years of practice scrounging obscure, hard to find, long out of production parts, 356 owners feel right at home in junkyards, old barns and other places old cars come to rest. Every 356 owner tooling along with his driving hat and gloves has a near sexual fantasy of finding a forgotten, original Carrera in some desolate place and picking it up for pennies on the dollar. 356 owners meticulously restore their cars to showroom condition to make a good showing at the next PCA meet. When the total restoration bill is added up, it usually exceeds the GNP of some small African countries. 356 Owners tend to be the friendliest of all the Porsche Owners – as they have been too busy trying to find the correct beehive taillight to get involved with inter-model squabbles.

911 - “Defenders of the Faith” Firmly believing that they own the one “true” Porsche (except when 356 owners are around), they look down on all others as inferior, overpriced Volkswagens or Audis. 911 owners will spend thousands converting their car to look/perform like a newer/faster model even if is costs more than if they had bought the actual car they are copying. 911 owners, amongst themselves will debate the virtues of their fuel system and/or tail and its superiority to another 911’s configuration. When driving another car, 911 owners get confused and suspect vehicle malfunction if the *** end of their car doesn’t slide out behind them in a curve. All other Porsche owners claim to loathe 911’s and their owner’s haughty attitudes, but secretly hope to own a 911 themselves.

914 – “The Red-Headed Step-Child” Long scarred by the stigma of not owning a “Real Porsche”, and subsequently being told that their car is, in fact, an overpriced Volkswagen, 914 owners are forced to overcompensate for their implied inferiority complex by having the ability to tell you anything and everything about their car – and if you own a 914 too, everything about your car. 914 owners will debate for days on end the pros/cons of: fuel injection vs. carb, hood badge vs. no hood badge, hydraulic vs. non-hydraulic lifters. Possessing an engineering ability rivaled only by “McGyver”, they can, with 2 tuna cans, some wire, and a few rubber hoses restore a non-running engine. 914 owners either spend, or aspire to spend countless man-hours and thousands of dollars improving the engine and suspension to something close to 911 standards – even if it costs more than what they could have bought a 911 for. A 914 owner is happiest at the track giggling manically as he passes a 911 – at that point, all is right with the world, and the only blots on the horizon are rust and the odd dropped valve seat.

928 – “The Money Pit” 928 owners feel themselves the luckiest individuals in the world, as they have found these very expensive sports cars and picked them up for pennies on the dollar. 928 owners can be identified by sound in most Porsche repair shops – they all tend to say something along the lines of “(insert large dollar amount here) to fix (insert relatively trivial part here)! You’ve got to be kidding me, I only paid (some number less than $10000 here) for the car.” All 928 owners secretly compare themselves to Tom Cruise in “Risky Business” and have at least once danced around their living room in a button-down shirt, briefs, and ray-ban sunglasses to “Old Time Rock and Roll”.

924/944/968 – “Sports car on a Budget” The “Wetheads” all unite in the “us vs. them” struggle with the 911 crowd. Wetheads are divided amongst themselves between the crowd that maintains the car to point of near obsession, even though the value of the car was exceeded long ago, and the crowd that firmly believes that the engineers didn’t know what they were doing and that several doctorates in engineering can be overcome by low-cost, bolt on performance modifications or quick DIY maintenance techniques. The end result is usually severe engine failure, after given the repair bill, said wethead gripes about shoddy engine design and bad engineering, and of course, then goes out looking for yet another wethead car.