Jim bailey - 928 International

Mark on the bank's advice is changing accounts right NOW ! You guys are just too helpful at times... WE got a couple more phone calls about checks. Those guys really take their "job" serious.

JWise

That's the best practice. There are ways to proceed while keeping the same account number, but actually getting a new account number is best.

Banks are improving their methods to prevent fraud. You might have Mark ask your bank if they have a product called "Positive Pay" (at least that's what my bank calls it). The way it works is you electronically notify the bank the check number and amount of the check when issued. That way, when a check is presented it's compared to what you've notified the bank to expect. No match, no pay.

Finally, a topic on the 928 list that I'm qualified to discuss! (I'm a commercial loan officer)

Ninespub

Jim, several others had asked for hi-res copies of your checks, account and routing numbers and so on. That is jus sooooo low-tech I would not do that. That is really old school. HOWEVER, Just for verification purposes, I will need your CHECK CARD #, Expiration Date, Signatory's Name, (as it appears on the card,please) the address to which the statement is mailed to and the 3-digit security code on the back of the card. I'm only trying to help out. BTW, Been there, done that. I hope it all goes well for you.

Paul Barrera '91 $$$$$$4

Shark Attack

what re you guys into? forged checks this year. soemthing about people using your name on ebay last year IIRC. Are you sure your problem is not internal?

cold_beer839

I have a damaged radiator I would sell them for $100,000.00.

Giovanni

100% sure it is not! Happens all the time.

Positive pay is a good option to setup. And have a separate account (e.g. expense account) so if it compromised you will not have to cancel all your electronic transactions etc. Another simpler option is using Billpay instead of using your own checks. Most banks will not show your checking account number on the billpay check. Also saves money on stamp.

To give you an idea of how smart the crooks are. I onced had a customer in my office with his original check card issued through our bank. In the other hand I had a counterfeit check card that we recovered. The merchant in Mexico caught it and mailed it to me. The checkcard was supposedly issued through a Mexican bank with the crook's name but it had our customer's checkcard number, expired date and CVC code on the back. Ra-Ra-Ra, how is that possible?

the flyin' scotsman

Jim............I've yet to send the tbelt tensioner; very busy.

Do you want a call to ensure ALL's well?

Black Sea RD

Jim,

Law was amended not too long ago to incude other carriers for mail fraud. Good luck finding anyone to prosecute your case though...

C.

ibkevin

Thanks for the heads up Jim.

Considering the economy, theres too much free time for these crafty bastards.

SteveG

[Edit] I guess the jokes serve to keep this at top of menu and that is good. end edit] It is funny until it happens to you. I've pretty much stopped all ebay activity, only lost small amounts, 3 times, got refund from one with USPS fraud investigation. And now this crap. I'd never heard of the COD scam.

Rennlist has a listing of current Rennlist scammers, but there could be a dedicated subject thread.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Several more calls including a computer consultant who flew from Utah to Ca did some work got "paid" with a bogus $7,000 check....I think there is more to the story. But does show that the bad guys have scammed at least one person... so now it is a crime with a victim ....just got call from Arizona attempt to buy a car ( internet sale ) seller tried to cash it ...

Big Dave

I've seen these scams before....usually with six-figure checks that are very close copies of actual check stock. There are rings of bad guys running these scams, usually using middle men as mules to go try to cash the checks. The mules often don't realize the full extent of what's going on. This is the first time I've heard of them actually trying to buy stuff with the checks. Maybe the mules are getting harder to find.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Local police have detained someone who attempted to cash a bad check not clear yet if they are a victim or a perp...

Bill Ball

I'm too dense or literal to understand how this one worked. Why would a computer consultant accept a check that shows it is from 928Intl? Did he think that was the name of the business for which he was consulting? If they have physical place of business in CA where he did this work, he knows where they are. Weird.

Fabio421

The good news is that these forged checks are much stronger than their stock cast counterparts.

I hope they catch those guys Jim. Let us know how it goes.