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Old 02-07-2008, 11:20 PM
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Dealing with a no start situation, I ran thru the normal steps for troubleshooting the problem. Fuel relay and fuse appeared OK and a shot of starting fluid resulted in the car starting. So it seemed obvious to me it was time to go order a fuel pump and await it's arrival.

Fortunately, I had mentioned to Bill what I was up to, and he had graciously offered to stop by and have a look.

Not being as easily fooled as me, Bill decided to pull the pump out now, and satisfy himself that there was power to the pump, and that the pump itself was actually non-operative.

Reversing the pump woke it up and soon it was whirring like a new one. We reinstalled the pump and the car ran like a dream.

Left to my own devises, I would have been out the price of a pump, and I would have had a non running car, sitting out on the street, for a week.

Not only did I save some time and money, I learned a valuable lesson from one of our Guru's; before investing in a solution, be sure you have eliminated all other possibilities.

Thank's again Bill
Old 02-07-2008, 11:25 PM
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Bill's the man.
Old 02-07-2008, 11:33 PM
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You might want to order one anyway just to keep as a spare for when it does finally fail.
Old 02-07-2008, 11:37 PM
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Good point Andrew.
Old 02-08-2008, 12:12 AM
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if Andrew hadnt said it I would have.

IMO it is only a matter of time for that pump, limit driving to shorter distances and get a new one asap.
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Bill is the MAN.....hopefully he can track down my damm brake pad sensor problem tomorrow!!!

Been there done that on the fuel pump.......which 928 was it???? I know your most recent has a new pump...so I'm guessing the GTS? I also think a spare is a good idea......I have a bunch of copper washers and a nearly new check valve if ya need it...
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.......which 928 was it???? I know your most recent has a new pump
The Euro. I'm starting to think I may need to pull the tank and clean it out.

I'm sure it didn't help that I ran it out of gas the other night.
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I did the reverse polarity trick once with a fuel pump... it died completely the next day.
Old 02-08-2008, 01:46 AM
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+3 on replacing the pump anyway it sounds like it may be a death rattle. It sure is nice to feel stuck and have Bill show up and work his MOJO. The patron saint of the 928.
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Originally Posted by Charley B
Dealing with a no start situation, I ran thru the normal steps for troubleshooting the problem. Fuel relay and fuse appeared OK and a shot of starting fluid resulted in the car starting. So it seemed obvious to me it was time to go order a fuel pump and await it's arrival.

Fortunately, I had mentioned to Bill what I was up to, and he had graciously offered to stop by and have a look.

Not being as easily fooled as me, Bill decided to pull the pump out now, and satisfy himself that there was power to the pump, and that the pump itself was actually non-operative.

Reversing the pump woke it up and soon it was whirring like a new one. We reinstalled the pump and the car ran like a dream.

Left to my own devises, I would have been out the price of a pump, and I would have had a non running car, sitting out on the street, for a week.

Not only did I save some time and money, I learned a valuable lesson from one of our Guru's; before investing in a solution, be sure you have eliminated all other possibilities.

Thank's again Bill
OK, Charley,

So all ya gotta do in the AM is take the pump out, reverse polarity, re-insert pump and you are good to go, eh?
Jeez, Charley, maybe it's time for an 'automatic?'

And 'starter fluid?' Would that be called 'petrol?'

Sounds like Bill Ball makes more 'house calls' than the family doc!
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
You might want to order one anyway just to keep as a spare for when it does finally fail.
Right. We talked about that. The pump was very dead when I got there. Not even a groan or a click. In fact, it took us a while to verify the electrical feed was even working despite jumpering the FP relay and checking the fuse and verifying that power was leaving the CE panel. Charley had run the tank down and the pump probably ingested some trash. It responded to reversing, but Charley needs to clean out the tank and have that new pump handy.
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Actually I planned on installing the new pump and keeping the old one as a spare.
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Sounds like a plan.
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Euro got the in-tank pump or just the screen?
And a new new filter since it's all right there.
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No in-tank pump. And with the fuel filter after the fuel pump and just a small mesh screen inside the tank, it's no surprise this happens when you run out of gas.


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