One of the most challenging Torque vs HP battles
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I liked this staement
-Aussie engines obey the exact same laws of physics that American engines do, except for being able to run upside down.
Please tell me thats got nothin to do with the way water runs down the plug hole over there! lol
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-Aussie engines obey the exact same laws of physics that American engines do, except for being able to run upside down.
Please tell me thats got nothin to do with the way water runs down the plug hole over there! lol
Low to midrange torque for me
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just saw it. It shifted the curve to be a more fair comparison. Heck, we have to keep the gears proportional and the speed ranges for each gear similar.
Actually, if you do the comparison for the two cars based on the HP curves, the acceleration rates would not be that far apart, at any speed.
If you remember, the comparison i did with the Viper vs the GT3RS, it would look something like that. then, closer ratio gears could be used to totally close the gap, even though one car had 2x the torque as the other.
EDIT: They used the same gear boxes as they went from 3-4 6 speeds. Hardly a fair comparison.
I took the power curves and found something interesting, that maybe the author didnt think of. If we are comparing differnt engines with the same HP, why not match the gears to the proportional speeds of the respective engines, with the same exact ratios?? He makes a point, but the point could be better made with gear boxes that fit the engines, and keeps things honest.
If you took the high reving engine and gave it a .78 rpm drop gear box. (less than even a cup car set up) and left the V8 torquer alone at near .7 rpm drop per shift, you could make the speeds match the HPs almost identically for both cars. Contrary to the authors point, you could make both cars accelerate the same at ANY speed. I think this would further drive home the point that its the power at any speed that determines acceleration. (a point he makes thoughout his article, as well as quoting the: Acceleration=power/(mass x velocity))
Mk
Actually, if you do the comparison for the two cars based on the HP curves, the acceleration rates would not be that far apart, at any speed.
If you remember, the comparison i did with the Viper vs the GT3RS, it would look something like that. then, closer ratio gears could be used to totally close the gap, even though one car had 2x the torque as the other.
EDIT: They used the same gear boxes as they went from 3-4 6 speeds. Hardly a fair comparison.
I took the power curves and found something interesting, that maybe the author didnt think of. If we are comparing differnt engines with the same HP, why not match the gears to the proportional speeds of the respective engines, with the same exact ratios?? He makes a point, but the point could be better made with gear boxes that fit the engines, and keeps things honest.
If you took the high reving engine and gave it a .78 rpm drop gear box. (less than even a cup car set up) and left the V8 torquer alone at near .7 rpm drop per shift, you could make the speeds match the HPs almost identically for both cars. Contrary to the authors point, you could make both cars accelerate the same at ANY speed. I think this would further drive home the point that its the power at any speed that determines acceleration. (a point he makes thoughout his article, as well as quoting the: Acceleration=power/(mass x velocity))
Mk
Last edited by mark kibort; 01-03-2008 at 08:39 PM.