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Old 12-05-2007, 12:03 PM
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I thought the 85/86 MURF kit was in the development stage based on a thread stared by Tim?
Old 12-05-2007, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Abby
I thought the 85/86 MURF kit was in the development stage based on a thread stared by Tim?
I think Tamps was persistent enough to get that moved past the development and onto the testing stage

There is an 86.5 in Green Bay that if the deal works out, will also be used to further develop this kit. The amount of snow that started to fall (and keeps falling) since Saturday has really put a kink in that game plan.

I'm going to go out on a limb (and put the pressure on Tim) that if all goes as planned with these two cars, the 85/86 kit should receive a 100% green light by the first of the year.
Old 12-05-2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa 928s
One other thought; has anyone installed a front mounted intercooler on an 86 now whould be the time to make this happen.
My turbo intercooler is mounted up front. I can provide you pictures later this evening. There is a great spot to mount it where the tabs for the auto transmission cooler usually sits.
Old 12-05-2007, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 123quattro
I'm not sure about the LM-1 sensors, but on my AEM it can emulate a narrow band signal. Basically it scales it output voltage vs lambda so that it matches up with the output of a narrowband (0-1.5v). However it will still read the full wideband range. This is really only useful if you don't want to add a second bung for monitoring
The Innovate can do that too, but I've read where people have had issues. I never tried, so I can't say what the issues were, but if you do a search there are a number of threads, but most notable I think the Twin Screw thread has the most.
Old 12-05-2007, 01:52 PM
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Mark, get with Abby on his mounting location and IC dimensions. I will do what I can from here as well. PM me your email address and I will send you some pics that I have collected over the years as well. Tim hasn't used an A/A cooler on any of his kits yet. He uses A/W ic's. Knowing him, he may have tried mounting an A/A at one point and could lend some insight. Is there a reason that you don't want to go A/W? I like the simplicity and reliability of A/A but Tim may have other thoughts on the matter. Its kind of like the Ford vs Chevy debate. Only in this case Tim is a Chevy engineer and I am a Ford shade tree mechanic. I have my thoughts but I don't want to step on any toes. Tim is a knowledgable guy and I'm sure he has his idea of how he wants to tackle this project.
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Fabio,
Tim is open to any ideas / suggestions. We have talked about air / air many times over the years. After all was said and done, the air / water works better for his kits.

When I boost the 79 track car, I will go with an air / air.

Jean Louis who is running a modified Murf setup on his 16V euro made his own air / air setup. It's overkill for a street car and required making some rather large holes to run the tubing (and no headlights). I might copy his setup on my 79.
Old 12-05-2007, 02:31 PM
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Het Abby:
That would be great, and about that WC I/C sounds interesting!
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With just a slight relocation of the radiator, there is enough room to run a very big A-A IC that would have the in/outlet pipes running on top of the radiator. This way you don’t need to cut any of the body/structural panels. The only slight compromise is that the in/outlets of the IC are not at the most optimal location and the AC condenser has to go. A track car will probably have the AC pulled anyways so this might work pretty well. I can post pictures from my home PC to give an idea what the IC looks like.
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Once again, the A/C must stay. The callaway IC is in front of the A/C condensor I believe.
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I'd like to see some pics...


Originally Posted by Fabio421
Once again, the A/C must stay. The callaway IC is in front of the A/C condensor I believe.
Old 12-05-2007, 03:58 PM
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Tim will need to get his SharkTuner upgraded..... for LH2.2 and EZF !
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Originally Posted by John Speake
Tim will need to get his SharkTuner upgraded..... for LH2.2 and EZF !
He knows.
Old 12-05-2007, 04:13 PM
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Great news that Tim has been "persuaded" to develop a kit for the early cars......

He may find a break out box to connect the ST into the car a good investment, as per the description in the LH2.2 ST Instruction Manual - http://www.jdsporsche.com/sharktuner.html

Look at "SharkTuner guides" on the LH side of the page and download the LH2.2 manual. see Page 12 etc.
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Well the Million Dollar ? is who in florida provides this tuning service, or who would rent one, John pipe in!!
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
People have tried using the WBO2 to drive the narrow band with poor results. It's probably best to keep them separate.
Keeping them separate might be a good idea if something does go wrong with the wideband for some reason. There were more problems with the initial Innovate wide bands when used to run the narrow band input of the stock computer. That was because of the fast response speed being too fast for some factory ECUs. Innovate has since added the ability to slow down the response speed of the wide band, and that's fixed that issue. The other most common reason for problems seems to be due to people not grounding things properly.

Originally Posted by Enzo
Jean Louis who is running a modified Murf setup on his 16V euro made his own air / air setup. It's overkill for a street car and required making some rather large holes to run the tubing (and no headlights).
He's going to be changing that over the winter. The air/air was blocking too much of the radiator, and he was seeing higher coolant temperatures because of it.


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