Largest E85 station in SoCal (or only) near me Go E85?
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Largest E85 station in SoCal (or only) near me Go E85?
http://www.rtc4afv.com/
This is a great thing. Its in the center of San Diego, and not that far from me. I already have the car plumbed for -10, and the injectors are 76lb, and the EFI will be fully tunable - so I was thinking I could run the car on E85! Its nearly 105 octane, and that would basically allow me to not have to add the methanol/water injection.
With this stuff, and my coated stock pistons and cometic gasket, I should be able to run a solid 1 bar of air (may need to upgrade the V-1).
I knew my fuel system upgrades would come in handy!
Question: Do I need a special fuel pump and different injector seals? Anything else for the higher alchy content?
This is a great thing. Its in the center of San Diego, and not that far from me. I already have the car plumbed for -10, and the injectors are 76lb, and the EFI will be fully tunable - so I was thinking I could run the car on E85! Its nearly 105 octane, and that would basically allow me to not have to add the methanol/water injection.
With this stuff, and my coated stock pistons and cometic gasket, I should be able to run a solid 1 bar of air (may need to upgrade the V-1).
I knew my fuel system upgrades would come in handy!
Question: Do I need a special fuel pump and different injector seals? Anything else for the higher alchy content?
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Stoich for E85 is about 9.7:1 (9.0078 for E100)
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Well, I have bought 750cc high impedance injectors, my ful rails are about a -12 inside, all plumbing is -10. That should be enough right?
Remember Erik - the alternative is methanol/water injection and running the crap CA 91 (barely 91 by most tests) fuel.
Remember Erik - the alternative is methanol/water injection and running the crap CA 91 (barely 91 by most tests) fuel.
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Brendan-
Weren't you going to use Megasquirt for your ECU? From what I have read, you can plumb in a GM E85 sensor to have the MS switch between the two fuels... Perhaps this is already what you are thinking?
Weren't you going to use Megasquirt for your ECU? From what I have read, you can plumb in a GM E85 sensor to have the MS switch between the two fuels... Perhaps this is already what you are thinking?
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vems, andrew - close to msII
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With an innovate wideband set to Lambda, you can easily monitor this.
Using a lambda based wideband setup makes keeping the air / fuel happy much easier.
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This very long thread has a great discussion. Along the way it is mentioned that torque continues to rise into the E85's rich of stoich zone, past 7:1! highest torque can be at 6.9!
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803341
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Don't forget that E85 LOVES boost...& lots of it......since detonation is nearly impossible......
Hope you have a fuel pump that can handle it....since its about a 1/3 more gas.......& don't forget the 1/3 less mileage too....so a 20mpg highway becomes 14 at best on E85!! But 105 octane is nice!
Don't forget that E85 LOVES boost...& lots of it......since detonation is nearly impossible......
Hope you have a fuel pump that can handle it....since its about a 1/3 more gas.......& don't forget the 1/3 less mileage too....so a 20mpg highway becomes 14 at best on E85!! But 105 octane is nice!
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Brendan
Don't forget that E85 LOVES boost...& lots of it......since detonation is nearly impossible......
Hope you have a fuel pump that can handle it....since its about a 1/3 more gas.......& don't forget the 1/3 less mileage too....so a 20mpg highway becomes 14 at best on E85!! But 105 octane is nice!
Don't forget that E85 LOVES boost...& lots of it......since detonation is nearly impossible......
Hope you have a fuel pump that can handle it....since its about a 1/3 more gas.......& don't forget the 1/3 less mileage too....so a 20mpg highway becomes 14 at best on E85!! But 105 octane is nice!
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Just went down to the station. Took about 7 minutes from my house. Very nice. I put half a tank in the S2000 for the hell of it. I think it has like a 11.7 compression ratio, so it won't hurt power I am sure.
Regular system, but the E85 is 2.60 a gallon instead of 3.30 for the crap 91 octane. Thats a savings even though the gas mileage will be lower.
Aluminum lines are some of my under-car lines, so maybe I should pickle them or have them anodized? And the fuel rails are bare aluminum as well. Maybe JetHot is impervious to alcohol. I guess I need to do more research.
Regular system, but the E85 is 2.60 a gallon instead of 3.30 for the crap 91 octane. Thats a savings even though the gas mileage will be lower.
Aluminum lines are some of my under-car lines, so maybe I should pickle them or have them anodized? And the fuel rails are bare aluminum as well. Maybe JetHot is impervious to alcohol. I guess I need to do more research.
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Looks like I have all the stuff I need right here!
http://www.weldonracing.com/product.phtml?p=13
http://www.weldonracing.com/product....and_-10_Outlet)
http://www.weldonracing.com/product.phtml?p=13
http://www.weldonracing.com/product....and_-10_Outlet)