linderpat

Hi Jason - this is a replacement decal, but it was put in the exact spot as the old decal. The location was the same on my last 928, which was an 84 "S" model as well. I have seen the "S4" decal on the lower right of the Porsche name. I have not seen any above the "Porsche" name. Noodle around on this site and the 928 Owner's Club site at pics from various 928 gatherings (like the recent Frenzy) and see what is prevalent. Also, check any old 928 adds and publications to see what was used. Maybe someone else has old marketing literature?

6mil928

Thanks Linderpat I did just that and the majority of them are in that location also. I think it is correct or a lot of people are wrong. I was going to order them from 928 Int but they want $55.00 for both the porsche and 928s decal together. Seems way to high to me for some thin vinyl letters? What do you think? Anyone know where I can buy them cheaper. Thanks, Jason

linderpat

I got mine from 928 Intl (IIRC), but I don't remember what I paid. You can check with 928 Specialists or Nicole at Hooked on Cars (both sponsors here). Don't know if Roger sells them (@ 928RUs another sponsor) - I've dealt with them all and they are all good, priced comparably for most things, but sometimes can save a buck or two here and there between them by shopping...Ed

underdog928

Hi.

I'm pretty sure that the center location under the PORSCHE logo is standard. See below:

icsmike

Yeah thats right. Seen three at one time last year in a junkyard with totally demolished fronts, all had stickers in that location.

CaseyH

I'm pretty sure you're right. Unless he has a Euro, 928s didn't receive the "S" designation until 1983.

If I were you, I'd just go with the raised "PORSCHE" lettering from Nicole. Maybe in black?

http://www.marketworks.com/StoreFron...916&i=26943336

Nicole

Jason: Is the car in your avatar the one in question? Is this a US or Euro/RoW model?

As you may know, there were no 1981 928 "S" models for the US - but the car in the avatar looks like it has the standard US side markers.

6mil928

Yes that's my car. I found a picture of it before the previous owner got it and it has 928S on the rear in the wrong location. It was ordered in Germany and shipped back with american specs. It has the modified exhaust with the Cat. This is atleast what I've been told. Do you guys have a way to confirm this? Here is a link at the 928 registry of my car before it was sold on ebay for the second time when I bought it.
http://www.928registry.org/1981-928-1228.htm

I also like the raised letters what's the cost for them? Do you also have the raised "928S". Jason

Nicole

That sure is an interesting car! Has a non-S body with US side markers. S4 rims, cloth interior, S steering wheel and km/h spedometer. I would guess that this car has had an interesting life before you rescued it...

Whether it is really an "S" remains to be determined. Unless special ordered without spoilers, S models always had them.

Have you checked the engine number to see, if it has an S engine?

6mil928

I've never heard of the "S" having a different motor. Do you know that for a fact? I thought I read something about "S" cars not coming with the spoilers sometime in those years. The motor is a 4.5L-16v M28/16. I checked. Ok the next obvious question is what makes a "S" in 1981? How can you tell it is an actual "s" if you look at it? I'm trying to find the info to post it. Jason

6mil928

I found this.
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z...8/default.aspx

"In 1980 Porsche introduced a 928S. It became available to the US market in 1983. The 928S featured a modified 4.7-liter engine producing 300 horsepower, 310 hp in 1983. The American version, due to emission and government regulations, was rated at 234 horsepower. The S was outfitted with wider wheels that aided in cornering and greatly improved the overall handling and performance of the vehicle. " Does this mean that all "s" cars came with a 4.7L? Jason

Nicole

Hi Jason:

Yes, all 928 S models had a minimum of 4.7 liters, but the 85-86 US models had a larger 32-valve engine that was an option in other parts of the world. Here is a more detailed break-down:

In 1980, the 928 was introduced for Europe and RoW with 4.7 liters, 2-valves, 300 hp, spoilers, suspension and brake upgrades, and forged wheels in the slotted design. The US did not get this model. However, they introduced a "competition package" that had the spoilers, suspension, brake and wheel upgrades - and I believe it included sports seats (not sure at this moment). But even with competition package, the US model had the 4.5 liter engine.

The US did not get an S model before 1983, and then it only had 234 hp - not 300 like the European/Rest of World versions. At the same time they introduced a 4-speed automatic transmission.

In 1984, Europe and RoW got what is sometimes referred to as the "S2" - with a 310 hp verson of the 4.7 liter (you can tell easily by the dual distributor). They also introduced optional anti lock brakes for Europe and RoW that year - but none of this was ever officiall available in the US. This was also the first year Europe/RoW got the 4-speed automatic.

In 1985, the US got a 5 liter, 4-valve engine with 288hp. This version is sometimes called "S3".

From model year 86, VIN 1000 onwards, this model has the S4 front suspension and brakes, as well as anti-lock brakes. Therefore it's sometimes called "86.5". From a driver's perspective, those are the most desirable cars with the old bumper style.

In essence, it seems that your car is really a basic 928 model - not that there is anything wrong with that!!! But putting a "928S" sticker on the rear bumper would be incorrect.

Looking through my sales brochures, I don't see any non-S 928 that has any lettering added on the rear bumper cover - neither inside the sunken PORSCHE, nor a "928" designation. The latter is already integrated into the hatch window frame.

Vilhuer

For easy table what was available at different markets check Wikipedia 928 article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche...ach_model_year

6mil928

Here's an example of a different location for the "928 S" decal right on our forum. Jason

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/383768-1983-928s-for-sale-fun-ride.html

Nicole

That's not a factory decal location.

Have you determined whether your car is an "S" or not? It sounds to me it's not - which would make this whole discussion irrelevant.