Does anyone think the aftermarket timing belt tension tool is a little pricey?
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Since it has a lifetime warranty and you shouldn't have a Porsche W/O a gauge I'll keep it.
It does look like it is a piece of cake to use.
Has anyone tried a fishing scale? It seems like one should work if you had a suitable clamp to slide under the belt.
It does look like it is a piece of cake to use.
Has anyone tried a fishing scale? It seems like one should work if you had a suitable clamp to slide under the belt.
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Jim--
Try it with the fishing scale and let us know how well it works. If you come up with a good, consistent, repeatable result, one that you can depend on all of us clunk-wrenches to be able to use, go ahead and tool up for the clamp, verify that the fishing scale is always the same, and every scale is always the same as the first. Package that unit, offer it for $10 to the distributors who will buy a few for stock and only buy more when the demand builds. Meanwhile you have plenty on hand for when that happens since you got a good deal on 1000 chinese clamps and a few gross of the fish scales. Anyway the demand finally builds and you sell a few hundred.
You're gonna be rich, Jim!
Or you can just buy one of the Kempf tools, a simple, effective alternative to the $$$$ Porsche tool. Or you can do without...
My hat is off to Jay for the tool.
If I was going to try to "invent" one from scratch, it would probably be a little stainless pie-shaped part with a slot for the belt and a 1/4" square hole in it for my inch-pound torque wrench. What's the setting that clicks as the wedge just touches the block?
Try it with the fishing scale and let us know how well it works. If you come up with a good, consistent, repeatable result, one that you can depend on all of us clunk-wrenches to be able to use, go ahead and tool up for the clamp, verify that the fishing scale is always the same, and every scale is always the same as the first. Package that unit, offer it for $10 to the distributors who will buy a few for stock and only buy more when the demand builds. Meanwhile you have plenty on hand for when that happens since you got a good deal on 1000 chinese clamps and a few gross of the fish scales. Anyway the demand finally builds and you sell a few hundred.
You're gonna be rich, Jim!
Or you can just buy one of the Kempf tools, a simple, effective alternative to the $$$$ Porsche tool. Or you can do without...
My hat is off to Jay for the tool.
If I was going to try to "invent" one from scratch, it would probably be a little stainless pie-shaped part with a slot for the belt and a 1/4" square hole in it for my inch-pound torque wrench. What's the setting that clicks as the wedge just touches the block?
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That begs a point.
It probably cost Porsche less to buil the origional tool, than it costs Jay.
Porsche already expects the owner to change the spark plugs, and such, why not tensiton the t-belt?
Don't we all wish that Porsche had included the origional tool in with the stock tool kit?
Any ovious reason why they didn't?
It probably cost Porsche less to buil the origional tool, than it costs Jay.
Porsche already expects the owner to change the spark plugs, and such, why not tensiton the t-belt?
Don't we all wish that Porsche had included the origional tool in with the stock tool kit?
Any ovious reason why they didn't?
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Jim, need a hand digging yourself deeper into that hole <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> ?
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Randy,
I thought at least one or two peaple would agree with me. I bought it sight unseen and it wasn't exactly what I thought it would be.
If I use it 6 times at $10 a shot the price sounds a lot better.
I did see a T Belt job on the net and they were using a fishing scale to turn a 6 in. 3/8 drive handle into a torque whench. While I have the scale out I'll run a few numbers on the belt itself.
I thought at least one or two peaple would agree with me. I bought it sight unseen and it wasn't exactly what I thought it would be.
If I use it 6 times at $10 a shot the price sounds a lot better.
I did see a T Belt job on the net and they were using a fishing scale to turn a 6 in. 3/8 drive handle into a torque whench. While I have the scale out I'll run a few numbers on the belt itself.
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Jay took a quick look at this thread. He seemed amused. Due to time constraints and a busy travel schedule with work, he pretty much sticks to the 928 mailing list. He did ask me to say:
"tell them that the small proceeds from the tool go to help me enjoy the car that we all love and to offset the cost of travelling to events full of 928 nuts to help share what I have learned. And as long as I can I will."
Nuff said there.
"tell them that the small proceeds from the tool go to help me enjoy the car that we all love and to offset the cost of travelling to events full of 928 nuts to help share what I have learned. And as long as I can I will."
Nuff said there.
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Too expensive? Nah.
You could always do what we in the Detroit area seem to be doing: one person buys a tool and lets everyone else borrow it.
Dozman....when do you need the timing belt tool back? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
I've got the "overpriced" flywheel lock to add to the community tool chest now.
You could always do what we in the Detroit area seem to be doing: one person buys a tool and lets everyone else borrow it.
Dozman....when do you need the timing belt tool back? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
I've got the "overpriced" flywheel lock to add to the community tool chest now.
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Gordon,
http://www.928gt.com
http://www.928intl.com
and a host of other Porsche 928 parts suppliers.
http://www.928gt.com
http://www.928intl.com
and a host of other Porsche 928 parts suppliers.
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Gordon , Jay Kempf who lives in Vermont has the tools made . He ships them to 928 International for sale and distribution . We are the only business to whom he sells , we order many at one time . We do sell to other parts suppliers . So the tool you get will have traveled from Vermont to California to New Hampshire or further !
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A little pricey?
Nope.
VERY cheap insurance/piece of mind IMHO.
You want cheap? Buy a Yugo, this is a Porsche.
Be thankful that TOJ (The Other Jay) was able to read thru the Shop Manuals, spot the long since forgot about tool the was no longer offered by Porsche, underwent fabrication and repeatability testing BEFORE even offering the item to us.
Sounds like a LIFETIME Rennlist Membership is in order here for that enormous contribution and saving untold number of owners from a costly repair - and owner involvement with their cars.
Nope.
VERY cheap insurance/piece of mind IMHO.
You want cheap? Buy a Yugo, this is a Porsche.
Be thankful that TOJ (The Other Jay) was able to read thru the Shop Manuals, spot the long since forgot about tool the was no longer offered by Porsche, underwent fabrication and repeatability testing BEFORE even offering the item to us.
Sounds like a LIFETIME Rennlist Membership is in order here for that enormous contribution and saving untold number of owners from a costly repair - and owner involvement with their cars.
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Hey, how about the adjustment by tone method, for all us cheapskates???
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