928 with Cayenne engine??
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Did you miss the curb weight?
Originally Posted by Imo000
I’m not doubting the performance of the CT. What caught my attention that it’s as fast as your GTS. I was expecting it to be much faster and 13.4 IS much faster than a GTS, unless your GTS can mach this. However I haven't seen any that will do better than high-very high 13s.
13.4 is what an SRT10 can do. I’ve ran gains two at the local drag strip and they were both pulling consistent low 13seconds. They were only a couple car lengths behind me and that’s impressive for a heavy truck. This goes for the CT too. Very impressive for a very heavy SUV.
13.4 is what an SRT10 can do. I’ve ran gains two at the local drag strip and they were both pulling consistent low 13seconds. They were only a couple car lengths behind me and that’s impressive for a heavy truck. This goes for the CT too. Very impressive for a very heavy SUV.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
I’m not doubting the performance of the CT. What caught my attention that it’s as fast as your GTS. I was expecting it to be much faster and 13.4 IS much faster than a GTS, unless your GTS can mach this. However I haven't seen any that will do better than high-very high 13s.
13.4 is what an SRT10 can do. I’ve ran gains two at the local drag strip and they were both pulling consistent low 13seconds. They were only a couple car lengths behind me and that’s impressive for a heavy truck. This goes for the CT too. Very impressive for a very heavy SUV.
13.4 is what an SRT10 can do. I’ve ran gains two at the local drag strip and they were both pulling consistent low 13seconds. They were only a couple car lengths behind me and that’s impressive for a heavy truck. This goes for the CT too. Very impressive for a very heavy SUV.
I have played with the SRT10's in both and both pulled ever so slightly on the SRT10 from a standing start and pulled several car lengths once moving from 60 on up in both vehicles this goes for any of the SRT vehicles I have come across. (The SRT's can easily be modified to add 50 or more HP I am assuming the one you ran against had some work done). My 94 turbo walks from all three like they were standing still. I have recorded 1/4 mile times in my turbo of 12.1 seconds and have yet to figure out how to get a good launch. With a good launch I would be down in the high 11's. From a rolling start my turbo pulls from most high performance cars including modified C5 Z06's Vipers 500hp 993TT's etc. Based on my comparisons between my turbo and GTS I would have to say the numbers are spot on.
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Cool! Sounds like you have a very strong GTS. I wasn’t much doubting the numbers as opposed to they seemed a little out of the ordinary. From what you said about the SRT10 run ins, the ones I came across at the strip must have been modified.
Heinrich,
After re reading my post, I realized that what I wrote is a bit backwards. I was questioning the performance of the GTS and not the CT but it came across as the CT.
Heinrich,
After re reading my post, I realized that what I wrote is a bit backwards. I was questioning the performance of the GTS and not the CT but it came across as the CT.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Cool! Sounds like you have a very strong GTS. I wasn’t much doubting the numbers as opposed to they seemed a little out of the ordinary. From what you said about the SRT10 run ins, the ones I came across at the strip must have been modified.
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My car does run quite strong but have never had a chance to compare it to another GTS wish I could make it out to LI for the dyno session to see how strong it is. I did have a run with an earlier S4 (don't know the year) and I did gain a lot of ground. But that might also have something to do with auto vs 5 speed.
Funny thing is if you use one of the acceleration calculators the GTS should do a 1/4 mile in 12.4 seconds @ 108 mph and the CT is spot on maybe a few MPH faster, yet they also say my turbo should do a 1/4 in 11.1 sec which is F'in fast.
The SRT 10 is no slouch and I was thinking of buying one but you can't tow with them, at least the CT has a 7700 pound towing capacity and will be towing my C2 up to Watkins Glen later today.
Have a good weekend I know I will.
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What's scary is the Jeep SRT. 0-60 under 5 sec! .87G on the skid pad. 13.5 sec 1/4. For a Jeep!
Now that's an embarrising light to light romp for the average shark..
Cost less to add a SC, swap out a Euro engine, or get nitrous. Or even all 3.
Now that's an embarrising light to light romp for the average shark..
Cost less to add a SC, swap out a Euro engine, or get nitrous. Or even all 3.
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Originally Posted by Terra-pistris
What's scary is the Jeep SRT. 0-60 under 5 sec! .87G on the skid pad. 13.5 sec 1/4. For a Jeep!
Now that's an embarrising light to light romp for the average shark..
Cost less to add a SC, swap out a Euro engine, or get nitrous. Or even all 3.
Now that's an embarrising light to light romp for the average shark..
Cost less to add a SC, swap out a Euro engine, or get nitrous. Or even all 3.
If you ask me by the seat of the pants comparison I think the Jeep's numbers are exaggerated 0-60 for sure but I could be wrong. It weighs the same as the Cayenne and has 50 less HP and torque and feels slower than my CT from 0-60. It has no top end compared to the CT's 160mph and it is all in the gearing with the Cayenne feeling more stable all around. It also can't handle compared to the Cayenne. It might do well on a skid pad but the cayenne would definitely out maneuver it and a shark has no worries in the twisties. Don't get me wrong for the money it is not bad is a good looking package but it has far less usefulness than the CT but also costs half the price. I would prefer a used CT vs a new SRT10 myself and would rather have a slower shark than a faster Jeep.
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I was teasing my brain with this idea because I plan to own my 928 for a VERY long time. I expect at sometime(hopefully past 300K) the eninge will give out and I'll need a new one. SO why not make it a monster then? And like Hacker said it's better than using a Chevy engine!! (in my opinion at least) This really just brings me with another question. Is there another eninge out there that will fit that isn't a Chevy engine? Perhaps the awesome 4.2L from the Audi RS4??
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oh god
one of those Audi engines will run $12K just for the lump
you have any idea what is involved in getting the electronics to work in a 25 year old car? Also the modifications that would be needed to make it physically bolt up.
Doing this kind of engine change will cost probably $20-$30K Do i really believe "the second youngest 928 owner" can afford this? NO
Hell if you were thinking V8 engines and you were going to go with a different marque, go with the BMW S62 engine. Its from the E39 M5 400hp 370ft/lbs. Those engines are ultra compact when compared to the M28 engines. You can find a used S62 for $8,000.
one of those Audi engines will run $12K just for the lump
you have any idea what is involved in getting the electronics to work in a 25 year old car? Also the modifications that would be needed to make it physically bolt up.
Doing this kind of engine change will cost probably $20-$30K Do i really believe "the second youngest 928 owner" can afford this? NO
Hell if you were thinking V8 engines and you were going to go with a different marque, go with the BMW S62 engine. Its from the E39 M5 400hp 370ft/lbs. Those engines are ultra compact when compared to the M28 engines. You can find a used S62 for $8,000.
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Originally Posted by Enzo
I surpassed the value of my OB (it's an 81) with routine maintenance. So at this point it doesn't really matter anymore.
A used Cayenne engine and all the electronics required to run it would cost in the neighborhood $20k-ish (..pure guess-timate), the turbo version even more; and add on top of that the cost of installation which would probably run another $10k.
For that kind of money, one can buy a much better stock car; take your pick.
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
I disagree.
A used Cayenne engine and all the electronics required to run it would cost in the neighborhood $20k-ish (..pure guess-timate), the turbo version even more; and add on top of that the cost of installation which would probably run another $10k.
For that kind of money, one can buy a much better stock car; take your pick.
A used Cayenne engine and all the electronics required to run it would cost in the neighborhood $20k-ish (..pure guess-timate), the turbo version even more; and add on top of that the cost of installation which would probably run another $10k.
For that kind of money, one can buy a much better stock car; take your pick.
Most of us here could easily afford a "better" car vs. putting one penny into our 928's. We don't care.
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
I disagree.
A used Cayenne engine and all the electronics required to run it would cost in the neighborhood $20k-ish (..pure guess-timate), the turbo version even more; and add on top of that the cost of installation which would probably run another $10k.
For that kind of money, one can buy a much better stock car; take your pick.
A used Cayenne engine and all the electronics required to run it would cost in the neighborhood $20k-ish (..pure guess-timate), the turbo version even more; and add on top of that the cost of installation which would probably run another $10k.
For that kind of money, one can buy a much better stock car; take your pick.
Most of us here could easily afford a "better" car vs. putting one penny into our 928's. We don't care.
If LndShrk has the means to pull this off, I say go for it.
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I would love to pull off the swap, but even if I had the money I wouldn't try it until the current engine needs to go. I hope to one day have the means to push the envelope of the 928.