dr bob

I can poke fun at New Jersey. I lived for a dozen years plus in that state, escaping when I was about 16 to resettle in the great and socialist state of California. Of course, back then it was the land of the free (education) and the home of the, um, brave.

88 Shark

Ok, guys I didn't start this thread to bash new jersey, I have lived here my whole life, and I am very happy to have done so. I don't live in the Getto, and anyone familiar with the area that I live (sussex) would tell you that it is the farthest place from the getto, where the farm animals out number the people in some cases. I thinks that something like this could happen anywhere in the country at any given time, I just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

928SS

"ghetto" folks are everywhere. they are white trash, ganstas, folks that don't have any class or respect for other people or their property.

not a jersey thing only, plenty of pcars get abused by jerks out here too. course, we don't have the infamous landfills and rivers full of bodies... (we leave our's in the mountians or desert) lol

docmirror

As one of the first to pile on the Joisey comment, let me say that I've spent some quality time there. I lived and worked around Allentown, Trenton, Morrisville. Now, I know this is a wide audience, but seriously, that whole area should be dammed down at the Delaware inlet, and flood the entire valley, all the way to Princeton. Leave the school, but it should sit on 'waterfront'. Now, I know there are some of nice places in Joisey, but I never found them.

As for kids today, I say this. Look in the mirror. If you don't like the way kids behave today the only people you have to blame is yourself. Anyone that's met my kids will tell you about respect, honesty, and integrity. It starts at the top. They would no more touch someone else's car than fly to the moon. It can be done, and you don't even have to beat them senseless every week(but it's just a bonus .

sorry to get off track. This hits close to home for me because I have a polished aluminum airplane. It's inevitable that when I go to an airshow, one of the line assitants will reach out and put his fat, grubby hand on the polish. It takes about 20 minutes to clean, polish, and buff out a hand print. Now, I'm getting pretty mean, even though it's an innocent thing. I will shout out the door before the prop stops "DON'T TOUCH!" I did see a kid come up and run his hand along the leading edge while his dad walked behind and didn't say a word. I asked him what he was thinking while his boy just ruined about six feet of polish, and he just shook his head and kept walking. It's not kids, it's the parents.

Angela R

Doc, is there a toy you DON'T have????

Flott Leben

Guess you never set foot in Bergen, Monmouth or Ocean counties, did you? Hey Doc, lay off Jersey - especially when you hail from a city whose motto is "City of cowboys and culture" (now that is an oxymoron) - and is known as "not being as bad a Dallas."

This thread is about car show behavior.

88 Shark

Doc... those are good points, the kids of today are a direct reflection of the parents, (geeez, I sound like my father). I don't agree with the NJ comments though, but, I just know the state better than you, and as there are some real bad parts of NJ, there are some wonderfull parts of the state as well, people just need to spend the time traveling away from the urban areas, if you do, I guarantee you will find some of the nicest country on the east coast.

BTW... Well said Flott-Leben.

docmirror

Yep, you might possibly get shot in Ft Worth, but at least they'll be civil about it. We have no class - thank goodness. Sorry about the Jersey comments, I know there's nice places in the state, wish I would've been closer to them.

As for toys, I guess I could use a train of some kind. Kinda hard to park though.

edit: Ft Worth motto is "Where the west begins", or alternately "Cowtown". We were recently voted one of America's most livable cities by a national poll.

dr bob

I have to say that the places I lived in New Jersey were pretty civilized by any standard. But it wasn't a long way to other options. For persepctive, a buch of us delinquents would ride the train into NYC on weekend nights for the shows and fun, come back in the wee hours by bus. It was OK to let your teenagers do that back then, apparently. It was the time of anti-war protests and a more liberal attitude. I'm sure that things there have improved a lot, only somewhat due to my departure.

There were plenty of car enthsiasts there when I lived there too. Most all were cool about the cars and fun to hang with. I had a recovered 4yo 356 as a summer car there for a year before we moved, no problems with keeping it nice except for the roads. Had to have a winter car too, so I found a stored '56 beetle with few miles on it for that duty. Lap of luxury in the winter, especially compared with the Porsche that also had a VW engine in it at the time. Ah the good old days!

The Good News is that I'm proposing a project in NJ for the fall, so I'll get a chance to visit there a bit during one of the good seasons. Like rats, we go where the food is...

RicerSchnitzzle

Moved to P-cola a couple years ago from central Jersey. Never going back. Had 21 stores in my district from Thom's river to Trenton to Elizabeth plus a few around the philly beltway. Lived in Levittown, Pa across the river where it smelled better. Took me an hour and a half to get 37 miles to my office in Somerset at 6:30 in the morning.

Sure there are nice places in NJ, but then people show up and they suck again...

Honestly northern NJ (North of NY towards the poconos) is very nice. South of NY there are small pockets of niceness but they are hard to find.

Flott Leben

Hey Doc, I'm just kidding around with you. But check out the upper lefthand corner of your city's site:
http://www.fortworth.com/

Don't get me wrong. I love Texas (I have a sister and her family there). I just love the Jersey beaches more - although TX does have some great coastline as well.

As for the car show: it really is the parents' responsibility to watch their kids at all times. For example, just this summer 3 or 4 children have drowned in backyard pools in this area because the parents were not properly supervising their children. That is just really sad.

RicerSchnitzzle

Can you disconnect the positive battery cable at shows? Then wait for kids with a tazer on the car's body?

It'd be like a bug zapper for peanut butter and bugger laden fingers.

Flott Leben

Or an electricfied outer skin, ala the Nautilus in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

928SS

careful.. he might overreact... hahaha

heinrich

I think you should hand out buttons to the nice families: