Newbie close to buying 928 has a couple of questions
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Nice looking car, the wheels a are a nice bonus (i'd not expect rusting...). I agree that the leather on stock seats is typically always taught - so very likely they are recovered - but nice sports seats anyway. The red piping looks OK to me - but its you that counts. A color change is a pain but quite doable (esp to black).
I drive my car everyday and consumables (petrol/oil & tires) are expensive but maintenance wise its not a bad deal - the cars sem to perform better when used regularly. Of course I don't have to deal with cold/wet weather.
As far as PPI - you should get much more. I'd demand a more thorough examination, certainly evaluate for oil leaks, emissions (if required) and a compression, leak down is good insurance. Have them assess (up on a lift) whether there is any apparent frame/body damage. Does the AC system work etc etc. I'd want to get a hammer connected and see if there are any fault codes, get a knock count etc - pretty quick to do. It will make it a lot more expensive - but could avoid a costly mistake, maybe give you bargaining room and at least make you aware of what needs to be worked on.
Also evaluate the owner records before purchase and see what regular maintanance has been done...
Has the timing belt/water pump been done in the last 3 years? Miles since?
Has the PSD ever been flushed
Are the tires wearing evenly, how much is left - how long have they been on?
Best of luck with it...!
Alan
I drive my car everyday and consumables (petrol/oil & tires) are expensive but maintenance wise its not a bad deal - the cars sem to perform better when used regularly. Of course I don't have to deal with cold/wet weather.
As far as PPI - you should get much more. I'd demand a more thorough examination, certainly evaluate for oil leaks, emissions (if required) and a compression, leak down is good insurance. Have them assess (up on a lift) whether there is any apparent frame/body damage. Does the AC system work etc etc. I'd want to get a hammer connected and see if there are any fault codes, get a knock count etc - pretty quick to do. It will make it a lot more expensive - but could avoid a costly mistake, maybe give you bargaining room and at least make you aware of what needs to be worked on.
Also evaluate the owner records before purchase and see what regular maintanance has been done...
Has the timing belt/water pump been done in the last 3 years? Miles since?
Has the PSD ever been flushed
Are the tires wearing evenly, how much is left - how long have they been on?
Best of luck with it...!
Alan
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Have to disagree on this. 928 is probably one of the best sport cars of the period in snow. With good quality winter tires only problem is ground clearance. Heater is more than up to it for example.
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My RDK has never caused a moment of trouble once I cleaned, and checked the wiring and sensors. Any system where maintenance is deferred is likely to give trouble. I don't particularly like the RDK, but it's worked flawlessly for me.
Get a beater for winter, maybe a Skoda, or NSU if you can find one. Hey, I've got a Matra Bagheera I'll ship you. It works well in winter, you just skid on the belly pan and use the wheel like a rudder.
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Thanks again guys for your input and thoughts - very much appreciated !!
Must see what I can do about getting a more thorough inspection.
The seat recovery issue does worry me a bit - would you say the puckering indicates a sloppy job ?
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Erling Groes-Petersen
Must see what I can do about getting a more thorough inspection.
The seat recovery issue does worry me a bit - would you say the puckering indicates a sloppy job ?
Best regards,
Erling Groes-Petersen
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With one picture it is hard to be sure of anything. It could just be a hurried or sloppy job or it could be really cheap materials or it could be that someone inserted some very inappropriate padding material plus one or two of the above. Not only is the leather not lying correctly over the seat but the lines of the seat just don't look right.
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As long as the paint is continuous (no chips/deep scratches) over the whole body and the rubber seals are all in good condition you don't need to worry about rust. Water cannot pierce through a decent paintjob unless it finds a hole, and even then the bodies are galvanized. However, if the car is still looking this good after 16 years in snowy Denmark then I don't see why you can't pick it up.
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Hi Erling,
as I think that Nicole has not read your post yet :-)), I am going to comment on this car.
Try and go to the german porsche fan forum (www.pff-online.de) and ask the members in the 928-section. If you are not capable of german all the guys there are english speaking if necessary.
I don't remeber exactly, but I think that exactly this car was a subject in a buying-thread there.
Cheers and Good Luck,
Stefan
as I think that Nicole has not read your post yet :-)), I am going to comment on this car.
Try and go to the german porsche fan forum (www.pff-online.de) and ask the members in the 928-section. If you are not capable of german all the guys there are english speaking if necessary.
I don't remeber exactly, but I think that exactly this car was a subject in a buying-thread there.
Cheers and Good Luck,
Stefan
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Charley B:
If they're supposed to look like the mouse-grey seats on the photo I've attached of another 928GT I looked at, I see what you mean about the lines. Starting not to like this I must say
V2Rocket_aka944:
Currently the car is in Southern Germany and I doubt it's been in Denmark before. According to the seller, it's been resprayed 3 years ago and doesn't have as much as a stonechip today. Car should have a complete service history too, again according to the seller.
Stefan:
Thanks Stefan, I will have a look at the German forum. My German is rather rudimentary, so probably have to stick with English.
I got a couple of photos of the engine bay from the seller today. There are some non-standard colors there I think.
Again thanks everyone; very much value your comments and input !!
Best regards,
Erling Groes-Petersen
If they're supposed to look like the mouse-grey seats on the photo I've attached of another 928GT I looked at, I see what you mean about the lines. Starting not to like this I must say
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V2Rocket_aka944:
Currently the car is in Southern Germany and I doubt it's been in Denmark before. According to the seller, it's been resprayed 3 years ago and doesn't have as much as a stonechip today. Car should have a complete service history too, again according to the seller.
Stefan:
Thanks Stefan, I will have a look at the German forum. My German is rather rudimentary, so probably have to stick with English.
I got a couple of photos of the engine bay from the seller today. There are some non-standard colors there I think.
Again thanks everyone; very much value your comments and input !!
Best regards,
Erling Groes-Petersen
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Hi,
have you seen this GT?
http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=34lihlqq31j
Fully porsche serviced (new clutch, tb), all docu, proven mileage, accidentfree and it seem like from a private seller.
Cheers
Stefan
have you seen this GT?
http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=34lihlqq31j
Fully porsche serviced (new clutch, tb), all docu, proven mileage, accidentfree and it seem like from a private seller.
Cheers
Stefan
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Hi Stefan,
No, I have mostly been looking at mobile.de, so haven't seen that one. Looks like it could be a viable alternative if the other one falls through, so thanks for the suggestion
Had a quick look at autoscout and found a couple more that also seems interesting:
---.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=3edyrroockf
---.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=3hi2nsophni
Substitute the --- with the usual (I'm not allowed to post links yet - hope I haven't broken a major rule by circumventing it this way)
Ah, the dilemmas about what to do, lol
Cheers,
Erling
No, I have mostly been looking at mobile.de, so haven't seen that one. Looks like it could be a viable alternative if the other one falls through, so thanks for the suggestion
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Had a quick look at autoscout and found a couple more that also seems interesting:
---.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=3edyrroockf
---.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=3hi2nsophni
Substitute the --- with the usual (I'm not allowed to post links yet - hope I haven't broken a major rule by circumventing it this way)
Ah, the dilemmas about what to do, lol
Cheers,
Erling
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Erling, the seats in your subject car appear to be sport seats which do have much larger bolsters than those pictured in Post #22. Maybe someone with some computer skills can post a picture of sport seats. Never-the-less, even as sport seats, they don't look right.
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The target car does have bone stock sport seats. What happens to the driver's side outside bolster is that someone with a fat butt tries to squish into the seat, and crushes the bolster on each entry/exit. Sometimes they also use their left hand on the top of the bolster to push themselves up out of the seat. The frame has been distorted by human hand, that's all. If it's been reupholstered, it wasn't done perfectly, and the leather is bunching a bit.
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Thanks again all for your insight and comments !!
Casey:
Oh boy, those seats look gorgeous for sure; wish the leather in my target car was as tight as this.
Docmirror:
What you're saying sounds somewhat reassuring. Would the apparant condition of the seats in the car keep you from buying it, if nothing else is wrong with it ?
What do you guys (and gals ?) think of the engine's colors ?
Cheers,
Erling
Casey:
Oh boy, those seats look gorgeous for sure; wish the leather in my target car was as tight as this.
Docmirror:
What you're saying sounds somewhat reassuring. Would the apparant condition of the seats in the car keep you from buying it, if nothing else is wrong with it ?
What do you guys (and gals ?) think of the engine's colors ?
Cheers,
Erling
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if that was the only thing and the prices was OK (negotiate down a bit on that basis) I'd not let it stop me. Recovering seats can be done - probably quite well locally - given that it mostly looks loose - you may even be able to have the existing covers restitched at very low cost...
Find out what the discussion on the DE board was....?
The engine (intake & cam covers) is indeed painted/powder -coated ask which?
Normally these are a sliver color on both. They both get hot so take a good look for any damage from heat - powder coating will hold up well - paint may not.
I actually think the red/black is quite tastefull - other have done similar. You are less likely to see minor discoloration with these colors (silver tends to change color - even the stock intakes tended to go to a champagne look ocver time!).
Alan
Find out what the discussion on the DE board was....?
The engine (intake & cam covers) is indeed painted/powder -coated ask which?
Normally these are a sliver color on both. They both get hot so take a good look for any damage from heat - powder coating will hold up well - paint may not.
I actually think the red/black is quite tastefull - other have done similar. You are less likely to see minor discoloration with these colors (silver tends to change color - even the stock intakes tended to go to a champagne look ocver time!).
Alan