Old 928 gets respect from Riceburner
05-01-2002, 09:15 PM
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I told you that tranny fluid and filter change would do the fix. I'm glad you took my advice.
I know all about the ricer crowd and their "small man" syndrome/four cylinder complex and how they all have something to prove but I also know there are many very fast four cylinders on the road and many could probably blow the doors off either my 928 or my supercharged 560 SEC. However, I find it funny when I blow by them in either of my cars because they are much faster than most of the ricers on the road. The ricers usually don't mess with the 928 because it looks and sounds too mean. Though, the ricers get pissed when the SEC makes them look silly and they know they messed with the wrong car when they hear the whine of the supercharger and the sound of the pop-off valve releasing excess pressure. A supercharged/turbocharged V8 makes wonderful noises compared to that of a four banger.
The people on their rice rockets are usually the ones to mess with the 928. They are usually a bit perplexed when I'm on their back tire at triple digit speeds but most are usually too scared to go beyond 150 mph and I usually pass them to make a point. The rice rocket crowd, though often very wreckless, are usually pretty sedate when they don't destroy my car and give me a head shake in disbelief, a big thumbs-up, and a smile. I'm not saying my 928 is faster than most motorbikes but I try and have some fun with them when I get the opportunity.
I digress, of course, the only place to drive like this is a racetrack and on the unlimited areas of the Autobahn and even then it is not very safe.
Jim Nowak
I told you that tranny fluid and filter change would do the fix. I'm glad you took my advice.
I know all about the ricer crowd and their "small man" syndrome/four cylinder complex and how they all have something to prove but I also know there are many very fast four cylinders on the road and many could probably blow the doors off either my 928 or my supercharged 560 SEC. However, I find it funny when I blow by them in either of my cars because they are much faster than most of the ricers on the road. The ricers usually don't mess with the 928 because it looks and sounds too mean. Though, the ricers get pissed when the SEC makes them look silly and they know they messed with the wrong car when they hear the whine of the supercharger and the sound of the pop-off valve releasing excess pressure. A supercharged/turbocharged V8 makes wonderful noises compared to that of a four banger.
The people on their rice rockets are usually the ones to mess with the 928. They are usually a bit perplexed when I'm on their back tire at triple digit speeds but most are usually too scared to go beyond 150 mph and I usually pass them to make a point. The rice rocket crowd, though often very wreckless, are usually pretty sedate when they don't destroy my car and give me a head shake in disbelief, a big thumbs-up, and a smile. I'm not saying my 928 is faster than most motorbikes but I try and have some fun with them when I get the opportunity.
I digress, of course, the only place to drive like this is a racetrack and on the unlimited areas of the Autobahn and even then it is not very safe.
Jim Nowak
05-01-2002, 11:44 PM
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-I've had the same results from rice bike kids...they will do U-turns to come after me and goad me into a race, then follow me into parking lots to chat for a while! Great fun and almost always nice kids.
I've even had a few pickup drivers want to run me [poking more humor at Steve...would these be called "steakburgers"?] but they are usually not too nice when I either blow them off or blow them away. Oh well...
Normy!
I've even had a few pickup drivers want to run me [poking more humor at Steve...would these be called "steakburgers"?] but they are usually not too nice when I either blow them off or blow them away. Oh well...
Normy!
05-02-2002, 12:16 AM
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Some punks in a lime green, four-door Saturn with a big wing and a sewer pipe exhaust tried to race me and the wife in the S4 on the highway the other night. I believe that the young kids think that all the non-911 Porsches are 4 cylinders.
A kid in a mildly hopped-up Prelude tried to roll on against me on my Hayabusa and a friend on his ZX-12 recently. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! These kids have really been sold a bill of goods by the aftermarket air filter, ignition, etc. suppliers. Throw a K&N and some bright colored plug wires on your stocker Mitsubishi and outrun a Viper!
A kid in a mildly hopped-up Prelude tried to roll on against me on my Hayabusa and a friend on his ZX-12 recently. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! These kids have really been sold a bill of goods by the aftermarket air filter, ignition, etc. suppliers. Throw a K&N and some bright colored plug wires on your stocker Mitsubishi and outrun a Viper!
05-02-2002, 03:17 AM
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Generally speaking the import cars don't have any torque so it's hard for them to do much of anything. However, one has to be careful with the Skyline GT-R's, 300Z twin turbos and Supra Turbos. Most of those around SoCal are heavily modified and putting out well over 400hp. The few Skylines I've run across (3 so far) didn't even bother to glance at me, not that I was instigating anything.
For the most part large turbo or twin turbo cars are a bit difficult to drive spiritedly in traffic. Boost can be hard to time at best, unpredictable at worst and I've noticed that most of the powerful import cars I've ever tangled with wait until they get a big opening and then rocket by. In tight quarters they're just about useless when one needs to take advantage of traffic patterns immidiately.
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For the most part large turbo or twin turbo cars are a bit difficult to drive spiritedly in traffic. Boost can be hard to time at best, unpredictable at worst and I've noticed that most of the powerful import cars I've ever tangled with wait until they get a big opening and then rocket by. In tight quarters they're just about useless when one needs to take advantage of traffic patterns immidiately.
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This thing pulls like a rocketsled and that's even with the stock almost-200 mph gearing. 
05-02-2002, 02:05 PM
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Jim,
Thanks for the tranny advice. It definitely made a huge difference. I have to agree with an earlier comment, that most people believe the 928 to be the more underpowered non turbo 944. On one hand I hate how it definitely is an a$$hole magnet. But then, I do like the fact that the 928 is more conservative and understated looking than most other sports cars. I love its distinctive timeless shape that doesn't spell race me. This is what I believe makes most people thing we only have 4 cylinders under the hood. I generally only get morons in tuned Civics and Eclipses that always want to try. Hardly anybody with faster cars than me really bother. Not that I would even bother to try if a Supra twin turbo wanted to go. It would be nice to know how the 928 would measure up though. I do know most have more than stock under the hood. A friend of mine who owns a custom auto shop owns a Supra that puts out 600+HP. I have yet to see how he does on the track this summer. I think I'll bring the 928 just to see how well it does on the quarter mile.
Thanks for the tranny advice. It definitely made a huge difference. I have to agree with an earlier comment, that most people believe the 928 to be the more underpowered non turbo 944. On one hand I hate how it definitely is an a$$hole magnet. But then, I do like the fact that the 928 is more conservative and understated looking than most other sports cars. I love its distinctive timeless shape that doesn't spell race me. This is what I believe makes most people thing we only have 4 cylinders under the hood. I generally only get morons in tuned Civics and Eclipses that always want to try. Hardly anybody with faster cars than me really bother. Not that I would even bother to try if a Supra twin turbo wanted to go. It would be nice to know how the 928 would measure up though. I do know most have more than stock under the hood. A friend of mine who owns a custom auto shop owns a Supra that puts out 600+HP. I have yet to see how he does on the track this summer. I think I'll bring the 928 just to see how well it does on the quarter mile.
05-02-2002, 07:09 PM
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I think that every make of car can have its suprises. It's also how crazy (read: unsafe if your PC) that individual is. Hell: I put "big fats" on my old Chevy Conversion Van, and used to follow Vettes through Highway onramps just to see thier head shoot up in the rear-view to see me back there. And they thought THEY were cool! Ha!
LastV8 - you wanna lay down the story about my wife's 81 auto that suprized an unsuspecting M owner?
LastV8 - you wanna lay down the story about my wife's 81 auto that suprized an unsuspecting M owner?
05-02-2002, 08:08 PM
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GMAFB! "riceburner" racist? well im Irish and i find the slogan "Fighting Irish" to be an insult and demeaning to my heritage.
Lighten up Francis!
We all know what he is talking about
...there is ALWAYS one in every crowd! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />
Lighten up Francis!
We all know what he is talking about
...there is ALWAYS one in every crowd! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />
05-02-2002, 09:51 PM
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Around here in Greer, S.C. also known as the "Redneck Capital of the World", you have to watch out for all kinds of strange "sleepers". The local 1/8 mile dragstrip is "THE" place to hang out on Thursday nights, for the "run what ya brung" crowd. Some nice and not so nice imports, lots of Mustangs from mild to wild,some nice pro-street stuff from all brands, and a few VERY odd, yet fast "sleepers". Last week there was a early '80's 4 door Chrysler "K" car (a Reliant I think) that turned in several 9.7 second passes. To put that in perspective, that is as fast, if not faster than most of the late model stock Mustang GT's that run there!!!!!!! Ugly a**, beat up, POS K-car that will run with that crowd is an absolute hoot to watch. Most of the import crowd was in the 10-11 second range, except for an older Eclipse that was running 8.95's. This is substantially faster than my GT, which ran a best time last year of 9.3, with a slipping clutch. Hope to run in the sub 9 second range this year.
On another note, my best friend with his 2001 Roush Stage 2 Mustang decided to try some 3rd gear roll-ons with me a few weeks back. The GT walked away from him like he was tied to a tree. 50-135 and I was a good 1/8 mile+ ahead of him. Felt good to blow the carbon out too. <img src="graemlins/icon107.gif" border="0" alt="[icon107]" />
On another note, my best friend with his 2001 Roush Stage 2 Mustang decided to try some 3rd gear roll-ons with me a few weeks back. The GT walked away from him like he was tied to a tree. 50-135 and I was a good 1/8 mile+ ahead of him. Felt good to blow the carbon out too. <img src="graemlins/icon107.gif" border="0" alt="[icon107]" />
05-02-2002, 11:19 PM
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I started riding motorcycles when I was 15 -1965-.
Back then if you were on two wheels powered by a motor to include mopeds, Puch, Yamaha 80, Honda's when there was a bike class every 50cc jump, Harley's, Indian , Triump, Norton, BSA... All was cool, everybody waved to each other, we were a tribe.
Terminology Events - Rocket to pocket rocket, to rice rocket. 'Rice' came from the older guy's, and please remember there were 8 million guy's in military uniform just 20 years before my biker debut. A lot of them were geared up to hate and kill the Japanese - with some justification.
Japanese eat rice, Japanese built a lot of 'bikes'. The evolution to the word rice rocket and rice burner was inevitable. I might add that the disparaging term 'JAP bike' preceded 'rice rocket, by a few years. Of course, the Harley's made at the Ammerrichi Plant in Italy were packed and lubricated with olive oil. I agree, get over it...It all started in the early 60's and was locked in by the late 70's.
Chris agreed on most of that... but serious LS-1, 6 speed auto., equipped vette's, camaro's bird's. Emphasis on Serious ... no chance!
And the Odd One's are a trip indeed there is a young guy named Tony S. up here who has a big, full garage. Therein resides a magnificent stock Cobra R, several 'built' GT stangs and that lean looking shape under the cover in the back is... One mean mother of a Supra TT not sure of the year 94/95/96 but that shiney black car flat embarasses everything in 100's of square miles. miles. This is a don't even bother machine...
Back then if you were on two wheels powered by a motor to include mopeds, Puch, Yamaha 80, Honda's when there was a bike class every 50cc jump, Harley's, Indian , Triump, Norton, BSA... All was cool, everybody waved to each other, we were a tribe.
Terminology Events - Rocket to pocket rocket, to rice rocket. 'Rice' came from the older guy's, and please remember there were 8 million guy's in military uniform just 20 years before my biker debut. A lot of them were geared up to hate and kill the Japanese - with some justification.
Japanese eat rice, Japanese built a lot of 'bikes'. The evolution to the word rice rocket and rice burner was inevitable. I might add that the disparaging term 'JAP bike' preceded 'rice rocket, by a few years. Of course, the Harley's made at the Ammerrichi Plant in Italy were packed and lubricated with olive oil. I agree, get over it...It all started in the early 60's and was locked in by the late 70's.
Chris agreed on most of that... but serious LS-1, 6 speed auto., equipped vette's, camaro's bird's. Emphasis on Serious ... no chance!
And the Odd One's are a trip indeed there is a young guy named Tony S. up here who has a big, full garage. Therein resides a magnificent stock Cobra R, several 'built' GT stangs and that lean looking shape under the cover in the back is... One mean mother of a Supra TT not sure of the year 94/95/96 but that shiney black car flat embarasses everything in 100's of square miles. miles. This is a don't even bother machine...
05-03-2002, 02:09 AM
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John S.-
You left out 'crotch rocket'- which I hasten to add is totally sex (or orientation) neutral. Still have an "S65" motor in the barn... if you wax nostalgic with a few bucks it's yours. Might add that in that era, the Honda 50, S65, etc. were real breakthroughs. Reliable, cheap bikes that didnt' pee oil and parts in every parking lot, or vibrate your fillings loose, and usually started! Remember the CZ ankle breakers?
Donald
You left out 'crotch rocket'- which I hasten to add is totally sex (or orientation) neutral. Still have an "S65" motor in the barn... if you wax nostalgic with a few bucks it's yours. Might add that in that era, the Honda 50, S65, etc. were real breakthroughs. Reliable, cheap bikes that didnt' pee oil and parts in every parking lot, or vibrate your fillings loose, and usually started! Remember the CZ ankle breakers?
Donald
05-03-2002, 05:09 AM
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I had an interesting "exchange" with one of my students tonight. He had been giving me a hard time about my Saab, telling me he hates those cars, and that the parts are hard to come-by and expensive, etc. etc...
So tonight, one of the guys brought a "Mustang" magazine and read in it before the class started. We talked a little about cars in general, and I slipped when I mentioned "my cars" (plural). Of course the Saab opponent wanted to know what the other one is. I told him, and you should have seen that face!!!
He got all excited, even though he made it clear that his preference is the 911, or (better) a Mercedes. But he ended up saying "Now we REALLY have to like you..."
Talk about manipulating kids...
(Actually, they are young adults.)
So tonight, one of the guys brought a "Mustang" magazine and read in it before the class started. We talked a little about cars in general, and I slipped when I mentioned "my cars" (plural). Of course the Saab opponent wanted to know what the other one is. I told him, and you should have seen that face!!!
He got all excited, even though he made it clear that his preference is the 911, or (better) a Mercedes. But he ended up saying "Now we REALLY have to like you..."
Talk about manipulating kids...
(Actually, they are young adults.)