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Old 02-16-2007 | 02:56 AM
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I sold my 86 5 speed on last week on Ebay but I think buyer might be a scam artist. He registered with Ebay in June 06 and had 11 transactions (1 negative).

Now in the last 2 weeks he has purchased,

My 928 for $8000 (WA State), A Mercedes for $13,900 (FL) and a 944 Turbo (NE) for $5600 plus another $1500 in Porsche brochures and Texaco signs. He also bought another $8000 928 in Jan (AZ).

The buyer sent me a $500 Deposit via Paypal (Unverified) with the email XXXXXX@saeg.cc (CC?)and his Ebay email is a Yahoo account. The Ebay Address he registered with is a California Post Office Box not a physical address.

My paranoid thinking is he is using stolen credit cards for Paypal purchase's/deposits and then a fake cashiers check to pay for the vehicles? If it is a fake it takes banks 3 weeks to figure out. He could just be on a spending spree.

Can my bank phone his bank to verify a cashiers check? Should I insist on cash? My auction terms had payment in full by Feb 20 and he wants to pick it up Feb 23rd. So I could say yes to the 23rd but only if it is cash.

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Old 02-16-2007 | 03:04 AM
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If he is going to pay by cashiers check, there should be a phone number somewhere on the front or back of it that you or your bank can call and verify if it is good or not by the serial number and amount.
You can also call the bank listed on the cashier's check and verify that it was purchased at one of their branches.

Most cashiers checks are bought by a bank from another company, like for example I work for MidAmerica Bank in chicago, and we buy our cashier's checks from Intergrated Payment Systems, who prints the checks and sends them to us.

Our cashiers checks can be verified by IPS the very next day after they were issued. The checks are not actually drawn on my bank, but drawn on Citibank, where IPS operates the account the checks are drawn from.

I think the safest way is a wire transfer, usually you can see it in your account the next business day, but that varies bank to bank.
Once the wire hits your account, he can have the shipper pick up the car and title.

On the other hand, this does sound like a scammer to me, hopefully its not for your sake...

BTW www.saeg.cc is not even a website, so that is shady as well
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I checked out your buyer, maybe try to contact the seller of the other 928 and ask if he had any problems with that guys payment.

Just say you are being cautious since you have never sold a car on ebay before....
Old 02-16-2007 | 03:34 AM
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I checked out your buyer, maybe try to contact the seller of the other 928 and ask if he had any problems with that guys payment.

Just say you are being cautious since you have never sold a car on ebay before....

Already did that He said the buyer was a "great guy" "the tops" "the best" but he couldn't remember how he paid for the car. He was a little over the top in his praise for him.

I also did a www.zabasearch.com on him and not one person in California has his name "Maverick Marsellis". Also the phone number he gave does not come up in any listings or google search.

He wants to pick up the car in person so I could try and have him wire the money, pay cash or fax me a copy of the cashiers check so I can verify it with his bank. If he is not willing I would refund his deposit and walk away from the deal.
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I also did a www.zabasearch.com on him and not one person in California has his name "Maverick Marsellis". Also the phone number he gave does not come up in any listings or google search.

isnt that the guy from Pulp Fiction.
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that was marcellus wallace
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I would go with cash or wire the money. I would not let him drive away with the car with a cashier's check.

For some banks you have to wait 90 days before you can stop payment on the cashiers check, some you don't.
Even if you verify it its still much riskier than having cash in your hand or a wire in your account.

You don't know how far he is willing to go to pull this off, the guy could know everything I know if he worked in a bank and he could set up a fake phone number with a automated system to "verify" his fake check.

Seems too elaborate, but you never know.

I hope it goes well.
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DO NOT BUY FROM THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS A COMPLETE SCAM ARTIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CALL THE POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE HAS STOLEN OTHER 928'S AND MARCUS HUTCHENSONS ORIGINAL SUPER CHARGED CAR WAS ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!! IT TOOK OVER 1.5 YEARS TO GET IT BACK!!!!!!!!!! CALL THE POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PUT THIS ******* IN JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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it was page 4 for me, it all starts at post #35.

I guess he is a con man after all....sorry

I remember that thread but I forgot the name.

NICE ONE KEITH!!!
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Wow, this just got interesting...
Old 02-16-2007 | 11:36 AM
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Follow Keiths suggestion. He is a know con-man.!!
And he may very well be monitoring this website so proceed with caution.
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Originally Posted by Scott M.
Follow Keiths suggestion. He is a know con-man.!!
And he may very well be monitoring this website so proceed with caution.

Subscribed!
Old 02-16-2007 | 11:58 AM
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So, more realisticaly than a gun, I'm hoping local police will cooperate based on what? internet evidence?? and this guy gets locked up. Film at 11!
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I have a fake $9000 cashier's check pinned to my cube wall from an idiot in Florida that tried to steal one of my cars. I called the issuing bank and they verified it was a fake. They also told me my bank would have gladly cashed it, and then pulled the money back out of my account at a later date when they realized it was false. Be very careful with cashiers checks and money orders. They are easy to forge.

Glad you didn't get scammed.
Old 02-16-2007 | 12:12 PM
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I just don't get it why cashier checks are used in US. It must be more than dacade when I last saw check. No one uses them anyone in here. Banks have computers for direct money transfer from one persons account to an other. This doesn't prevent scams totally but it helps when one can check online if money was actually transferred into account or not.



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