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Old 01-22-2007 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by danglerb
.....An Italian tune up has my 83 running a lot better than when I started the HP quest. Now I don't think its going to take that much of a bump to make me happy. This Euro hybrid seems like the perfect fit of power and cost, as long as the costs don't get too Porsche on me.
Why not drive one of there hybrids just to make sure it will be enough to make you happy. It's one thing to look at HP numbers and torque curves and another to feel it. What if a hybrid is not enough for your taste?
Old 01-22-2007 | 01:16 AM
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Why not drive one of there hybrids just to make sure it will be enough to make you happy. It's one thing to look at HP numbers and torque curves and another to feel it. What if a hybrid is not enough for your taste?
I live a quiet life of misery?

If a 300 rwhp hybrid isn't enough for me, then I start looking for a track car. More than the hybrid would get me into trouble on the street. I'm not really even sure how my current 225/50/16 Kumho's will handle the hybrid, and I don't want to go over 245 or so on the rear, or even swap these 3k old tires anytime soon. That's a problem that kind of fixes itself, not enough traction and soon enough I need new tires on the rear.

Seriously, if I want more power or speed than the hybrid, then a track car starts to look like a good way to go.
Old 01-22-2007 | 02:26 AM
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Now, you're starting to confuse me as to just what you are up to. If all you want is 300 RWHP, sell the 83 and get a decent S4 or GT and put a X-over on it and you're done. If you feel the need a little more power, put on some headers. You don't need to be sitting there trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip with MAF translators or renegrade hyrbid motors. I don't understand the track car comment or the one about too much torque either. You're never going to have so much torque that it changes how the car drives unless you go off the deep-end. My car is utterly unchanged driveability-wise by the supercharger - at anything less that WOT, you would not know anything had been done to the car. These quests you are on seem like doing things harder, more expensively but not better than just selling the car you have and buying the car you want and making one or two cheap, simple mods. Track car implies something stipped that is not very pratical for daily driving. It's nice to have one for the track, but it could not replace my daily driver S4.
Old 01-22-2007 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Now, you're starting to confuse me as to just what you are up to. If all you want is 300 RWHP, sell the 83 and get a decent S4 or GT and put a X-over on it and you're done. If you feel the need a little more power, put on some headers. You don't need to be sitting there trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip with MAF translators or renegrade hyrbid motors. I don't understand the track car comment or the one about too much torque either. You're never going to have so much torque that it changes how the car drives unless you go off the deep-end. My car is utterly unchanged driveability-wise by the supercharger - at anything less that WOT, you would not know anything had been done to the car. These quests you are on seem like doing things harder, more expensively but not better than just selling the car you have and buying the car you want and making one or two cheap, simple mods. Track car implies something stipped that is not very pratical for daily driving. It's nice to have one for the track, but it could not replace my daily driver S4.
I wasn't talking about replacing this one with a track car, I was talking about adding a totally stripped, totally track car, but don't get excited I don't see that anytime soon, just an option if I still have too much go fast itch.

Bill sorry to confuse, but I have covered this ground a dozen times;

I am still looking at newer cars, but none so far improve my situation.
I know what I am doing makes no resale sense.
It does however get me a car the way I want within my budget, and not insignificantly under my wife's radar. Buying a second $15k to $20k old Porsche I assure will be on her radar, even if I was immediately selling this one.
I hate selling cars, and have no taste for being anything less than totally honest about condition and needed repairs, I would get maybe $5k.

If I choose to do the minimum on this car, drive it until I find a newer one, I need to do a full tune up with new wires and vacuum lines, MM, radiator fan, rebuild AC compressor, rebuild the 5 spd, and put in a new stereo. I don't see the increase in cost to do it the way I want as prohibitive. Other threads have run down the other options, upgrading to the hybrid motor and a 86.5 5 spd looks the best to me.

If I didn't have a car now with the double hump of selling it cheap and promoting domestic disharmony buying another, it still wouldn't be easy to find a car that I want. We've beaten the sunroof issue to death, so you're just going to have to accept that a sunroof car takes a $5k hit to be fixed. Its got to be a 5 spd, its got to be a S4 or GT, no red cars, and its got to be in nice condition with no damage, within 500 miles, and be at a price that makes it worth the double hump. Other than the factual situation I just laid out, I don't have a bias, if I find a great car tomorrow thats the way I go, but if I don't then step by step this one is getting things fixed starting with the 5 spd.
Old 01-22-2007 | 03:54 AM
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Oh the too much torque thing.
Its muscle car vs sportscar feel, and I like the cam kicking in high revving nature of the 928 motor, the dynamics of its personality. A high torque motor is actually much faster for the street, but I don't plan to race, just have fun and the hybrid should have the feel I am looking for, and synergetically tend to get me in less trouble.
Old 01-22-2007 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Fabio421
If someone were to do the MAF conversion (like Kuhn did on his OB) on an OB, would that car be able to use the Sharktuner after that?
No, not on L-Jet equipped cars. The fuel ECU is not suitable for ST.



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